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[Eugene Berkovich]

I've heard of Cannibal Holocaust, Eugene, and seen a few clips (was a big horror fan as a kid), but never watched it in its entirety.

It's not a horror movie. It's a mondo movie

[Pabs]

a what ?

[Eugene Berkovich]

a what ?

Well it is not only a mondo movie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondo_film) it can also be defined as an "Exploitation movie" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploitation_movie)

[lillie]

I was also a bit of a horror film fan a period in my youth watching The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and such but I have not seen Cannibal Holocoast though I've heard about it.

[lillie]

Or maybe one shouldn't say "horror films" about those I mentioned since a horror movie may not necessary be the same as a "splatter film".
In papers and on TV film magazines they said that the violence in "Eastern Promises" was brutal but I don't know about that. It may be because I've worked for a while at a hospital in policlinical surgeries and worked at emergency rooms so that when they cut off fingers didn't come across as especially brutal (the guy was already dead). Thoch I was a bit disgusted when he was to take the teeth but that was because I recall to memory a slightly sickening moment once when I and a couple of friends in my teenage dopedelivery years where to collect at one place it cracked when we walked in the room because one guy sat and cracked teeth to clear out the gold from them.

[bineaz]

Mark,

I think I showed you this in the past; my local radio station's listener poll results. Neon Bible was number 3; my favorite (Modest Mouse's) We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank was 4.

Caveat. The number 1 album by local band Wilco evidently got home-field support.

Full results are here (scroll down a bit):

http://www.93xrt.com/pages/1453467.php

Top song was Rehab I said

[Pabs]

Leeds United Supporters -- Kaiser Chiefs playing "Ruby"

(named after the former club of ex-Leeds player Lucas Radebe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMDcOViViNY

[Arcade Fire]

Thanks, Bineaz. It appears your local radio station's listeners have good taste, although I think I've listened to the station before. Modest Mouse are great, one of the best modern bands out there.

I can't say I've actually heard of Wilco. Any good?

[bineaz]

Yeah, Mark, Wilco are pretty good. They have an alternative/folksy kind of sound. I even saw mention of them in an Italian review of best albums fro 2007.

I'd say they're the best band out of Chicago now. The Smashing Pumpkins, though they mounted a comeback, no longer thrill people.

[Buzzz]

Actor Brad Renfro has past away, cause of death was not disclosed. Renfro was in such movies as The Client, Apt Pupil, Tom & Huck. He was 25. R.I.P.

[Pabs]

Brad Renfro

dezzi (who was an actor) said that in his mind Brad Renfro was in his opinion the best actor in the world but because he wasn't a Hollywood-type, he wasn't accepted as much as he could have been.

From what I remember about him, he was really into drugs. Could be the cause of death.

[agentesecreto]

could be

[Pabs]

who changed the name of this board ? Why ?

[agentesecreto]

Probably that idiot Bineaz. He's sucha control freak!!!!!!!


He makes me so ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pabs]

maybe it was Flac

[agentesecreto]

Him too. CONTROL FrEAL.

I hate management.

THEY MAKE ME SO ANGRY!!!!!!!!!

[Pabs]

take it up with HR (Leo)

[Falc]

When the asshole went to the higher authorities to delete the French thread, I unilaterally decided that he was no longer privileged to have his pseudonym on a thread title. So live with it.

[Pabs]

hehehe, Bravo Falc !

ps: why do you call palo a shoe ?

[Falc]

Because he is the ying to Surinam's yang?

[Pabs]

fuky sucky, me love you long time...

[.....]

Falc


Mile Grazie

[lillie]

So Pabs...you're posing as the prostitute in Full Metal Jacket?

I'd have to reject...glad though there's the danish TV series with Lars Mikkelsen started yesterday with 20 episodes. He's older brother to Mads mikkelsen who plays a crook in Casino Royal but he is better looking but just as good actor as Mads Mikkelsen although have a more understated style (despite being more of a theathre actor).

[bineaz]

No need to be angry palo, the pharmaceutical industry offers countless legal remedies to take the edge off; granted most work only slightly better than placebos, but at least you'll think you're not so bitter.

[lillie]

And people say that alcohol and marijuana are harmless drugs...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... eheadlines

[agentesecreto]

Both Tonys. Bineaz and Flac can kiss my ass. I could care less for te name of this dumb place.

Losers. Kissing a weak ass French Poodle's butt.

Any racial abuse will be reported to the authorities,( How youy like them apples Benito and Tony!!!!!!!!

[Pabs]

what the hell happened ?

[.....]

Rather be a french poddle than a dirty chihuahua.....

[agentesecreto]

At least Mexican Chihuahuas fought for their land and didn't give up without a fight.

[.....]

shut the fu.ck up and LEARN history....boludo

[agentesecreto]

I did. We cahsed your asses out of Mexico really quick the way you were chased out of the French Quarter and they way you gave up your land to the Germans.
Get some balls and come back and talk. In football you only won once you let the Colonists play for you.

[Buzzz]

Here are a few books I have read in the last few months and one I plan on reading soon.
The Alexandria Link - Steve Berry
Last Night I Dreamed Of Peace - Dang Thuy Tram
GOAL 2 - Robert Rigby
Remembering: Voices from the Holocaust - Lyn Smith
Sobibor - Micheal Lev
To Hell And Back - Audie Murphy
The Fellowship of the Ring - J.R.R. Tolkien
The Two Towers - J.R.R. Tolkien
Witness: Voices from the Holocaust
Behind Hitler's Lines - Thomas Taylor
The Great Escape - Kati Marton (nothing to do with the movie)
Contagion - Robin Cook
Diary of Anne Frank - Anne Frank/Otto Frank
Night - Elie Wiesel
Survival In Auschwitz - Primo Levi
Reawakening - Primo Levi


I saw quite of few books about WW2 and the holocaust I would like to read in the future so this WW2 phase of mine is not going to be over soon.

[agentesecreto]

looks like you're catching up with your high school reading.

[lillie]

Several of those are worth reading. Anne Frank's diary is perhaps a bit of a girlish view as opposed to Sobibor (which I believe have been filmed).
Also worth reading is "Behind the Urals - an american worker in Russia's city of steel" by John Scott which can bring some insight on what preconditions that can have people to enter into such societies.
If you would have been able to read swedish you could have read
"Ulrike and the war" and "Ulrike and the peace" by Vibeke Olsson which are novels but with historical facts about a young girl who grows up in Germany during the years when the nazis came to power.
She has also written a book called "Molnfri bombnatt" ( approx. "Clear night for bombing") which is about an elderly woman in sweden who have been at concentrationcamp and remembers and are concerned when she notices signs of increasing intolerance.

I had a teacher in social sciences in junior high who had been at concentrationcamp and he was very metaculious about the preconditions that enabled societies as nazi Germany and the Sovietunion to take place and he expressed as somewhat frustrating that so many seemed to think that it was a result of a couple of evil guys and herds of fools.
And he didn't hold those views for making it excusable but rather from the point that if you are effectively to combat something (tyranny) then you must have some understanding of it (i.e. not in the sense of any strive for identificationprocess with the tyrants or their followers but more like from where they arise).
And also, what is described as "The Golden Years" in most of US economic history books (the 20s) were not golden at all for the vast majority in Europe.


But you can pose any view. John Hiatt muses over TIMEs nomination of Putin, for instance:

In fact, crime worsened after Putin succeeded Yeltsin as president in 2000, as did corruption

Has it really, or is it so that the number in statistics are up due to people are more eager to report crimes and abuse in form of corruption now than compared to Yeltsin's years?

Why would a leader of such steely confidence, heroic achievement and massive popularity be so afraid of political competition?

Given how Russian/Soviet leaders have been treated by their successors since Czar Nikolaus was removed would have you think that based on historical empirical evidence it would be a good idea to have some sense of caution.

[lillie]

Several of those are worth reading. Anne Frank's diary is perhaps a bit of a girlish view as opposed to Sobibor (which I believe have been filmed).
Also worth reading is "Behind the Urals - an american worker in Russia's city of steel" by John Scott which can bring some insight on what preconditions that can have people to enter into such societies.
If you would have been able to read swedish you could have read
"Ulrike and the war" and "Ulrike and the peace" by Vibeke Olsson which are novels but with historical facts about a young girl who grows up in Germany during the years when the nazis came to power.
She has also written a book called "Molnfri bombnatt" ( approx. "Clear night for bombing") which is about an elderly woman in sweden who have been at concentrationcamp and remembers and are concerned when she notices signs of increasing intolerance.

I had a teacher in social sciences in junior high who had been at concentrationcamp and he was very metaculious about the preconditions that enabled societies as nazi Germany and the Sovietunion to take place and he expressed as somewhat frustrating that so many seemed to think that it was a result of a couple of evil guys and herds of fools.
And he didn't hold those views for making it excusable but rather from the point that if you are effectively to combat something (tyranny) then you must have some understanding of it (i.e. not in the sense of any strive for identificationprocess with the tyrants or their followers but more like from where they arise).
And also, what is described as "The Golden Years" in most of US economic history books (the 20s) were not golden at all for the vast majority in Europe.


But you can pose any view. John Hiatt muses over TIMEs nomination of Putin, for instance:

In fact, crime worsened after Putin succeeded Yeltsin as president in 2000, as did corruption

Has it really, or is it so that the number in statistics are up due to people are more eager to report crimes and abuse in form of corruption now than compared to Yeltsin's years?

Why would a leader of such steely confidence, heroic achievement and massive popularity be so afraid of political competition?

Given how Russian/Soviet leaders have been treated by their successors since Czar Nikolaus was removed would have you think that based on historical empirical evidence it would be a good idea to have some sense of caution.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02070.html

[agentesecreto]

No one can really say what's worth reading. The reading experience is very subjective.

Only sheep should do what others do.

[lillie]

Some doesn't like to read at all so to some degree you're right agente, but if you want to study a specific subject or something (like Buzz seemed to be into) it's nothing wrong with providing an advice if you have studied the matter and/or read novels about it, is it? It's not like a sentence or even a compulsory.

Only sheep should do what others do

Well, for this limited context, if you have been given an advice and thrown it away and subsequentally find yourself in trouble for having done it, you have no reason to complain really.

Not all sayings are necessary true because they're well known either. A lie is not truth because on the mere ground that it's repeated by several.

[lillie]

And just because you read something it's not necessarily that you will agree, or follow (if the piece is of such nature). But sometimes just seeing another prespective can be sort of useful (maybe not immediately).

[Buzzz]

I want to read about the Bielski brothers next, especially since there is a new movie about them coming out soon.

[lillie]

And from the Adopt a Gremlin/National Goat Association bureau...saw that Viggo Mortensen have been nominated to an Oscar for best male lead role (Eastern Promises)