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Postby Arcade Fire on 22 Aug 2007, 10:24

Collymore? Oh yeah, he kicked Ulrika down some stairs, didn't he?

Doesn't seem to have harmed his career as much as I thought it would, as he can often be found opining on the latest football issues, even on the BBC.
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Postby bineaz on 22 Aug 2007, 10:29

Pabs wrote:I was thinking the same thing....


LMAO
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Postby lillie on 22 Aug 2007, 12:39

I don't know if it was down some stairs or so but he did kick her at some bar in Paris. Not a thing that I'd support but Ms Johnson have proved herself to be able of some quite less than "honest" methods in her workings. There's plenty of women around the world who are in a genuine vulnerable position, too many for me to feel any deeper sympathy for a woman who seems to set a pride in being simply false and idiotic just for the sake of being able to cry "I'm a victim" in order to get a cover story.
Harsh, I admit that but I'd still say it without knowing the details of the row between them.


Pardon me for not having noticed he opens with football opinions (I don't have BBC).
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Postby lillie on 23 Aug 2007, 07:35

It's perhaps one of those things it's un pc to chuckle about. Similarly, one can not help to admire a man who appreciates a challange, like goalie Magnus Hedman who have to some extent devoted himself to preach about the attitudes and usage of words in sports. Surely a praise worthy devotion esp. among younger participants. But he does not get it easy when his wife at the same time is out in TV and various papers and talking about her experience of threesomes and her faith in God.
A lot of people (who are not religious or comes from "other cultures" would say that his wife and mother of his childrenis a skank, to put it mildly. And that despite she doesn't come from a wealthy background as Paris Hilton. But being called a skank is not a matter of life and death

in our culture

, so why act as if it is? Especially if you've exposed your sexual peculiarities (where the vast majority prefer to not go public with it) in public for more or less commercial purposes? Why display that you're offended and a "pity me" show when you have no reason whatsoever to be offended?
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Postby Arcade Fire on 23 Aug 2007, 09:01

Yeah, I didn't expect you to know that about Collymore being on the BBC, was just adding it, and found it unusual that the BBC would employ him (he's been involved in a lot more than just the one incident).

You really don't like Ulrika, do you? Perhaps she should've just stayed as a weathergirl :D
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Postby lillie on 23 Aug 2007, 09:31

You really don't like Ulrika, do you? Perhaps she should've just stayed as a weathergirl


I don't know her personally so my dislike of her have no personal basis. And I can't say that I think she should have stayed a weather girl but I have a strong dislike of how she carries her current profession. Surely a journalist, or a columnist, can write about personal experiences and views but when using the platform you have, which is to a greater advantage compared to a lot of people that don't have the same acces to get "their side of a story" to a broader public, as a means of "getting back" at people for personal emotional reasons...I think it's sort of low.
And there is likely more than one journalist who thinks that people like her are damaging the profession. It's not like she's the only one but there are others who may not be as well known. Most of them are women though, you seldom see a male columnist (real journalists usually don't engage in such personal emotional crusades).

Similarly, it's sort of ridiculous to publicly crave for sympathy like she did in a way with the book "Honest" when she in fact have chosen to have relationships with guys that many would say are arseholes (and presumably a lot of them are) because that is the kind of guys she's usually attracted to. Which one may say sucks but she have a right to chose herself an arsohole doesn't she <shrugs>?

he's been involved in a lot more than just the one incident


Some women obviously find that exciting. Similarly as Scott Weiland's wife being trashed about on a more or less regular basis. When I was younger it sometimes happened that some of my fiends in a what I'd call a negative relationship, and eventually I did try to help by letting the girls stay in my apartment for a while. But they went back, and not just that, for some reason they pulled some stunt that it had not been their own decision to leave initially but that they had been lured into it, which meant that I had to listen to a lot of bullshit from their guys.

Maybe there should be some sort of compulsory examiation about whether people are mentally capable of looking after themselves (and carrying the consequences of their own activities).
Cruelly as it may sound I believe that a lot of the people that passes for celebrities today eventually would have been at mental wards as recent as in the sixties.


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Postby lillie on 23 Aug 2007, 09:42

N.B.

I do call myself a feminist but I am not of the kind that would call for prohibition of this and that. But in having rights it also means that you should be ready to carry your own part of the responsibility in what happens in the things you've participated in.

Similarly I would not have any interest in running any campaign to prohibit pictures or films of an pornographic nature (under prerequisite that the participants have given relevant consent and is aware of that they're being filmed or taknen photos of). A lot of people makes a good luxury living on it. But when you start to try and call it something else it gets ridiculous. If you pose nude dressed at most in lace undies for photos that are to be published in magazines that is directed towards consumption of men in the age of doing their military service or similar you'd better buy me a lot of crack to have me agree to that your portraying a reindeer.

Main Entry: por·nog·ra·phy Pronunciation: -fE Function: noun

Etymology: Greek pornographos, adjective, writing about prostitutes, from pornE prostitute + graphein to write; akin to Greek pernanai to sell, poros journey -- more at FARE, CARVE

1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement

2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

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Call a spade a spade. If you're sensitive about people commenting on your tits why on earths name are you deliberately exposing them for commercial purposes?
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Postby agentesecreto on 24 Aug 2007, 01:20

Thanks for the warning. I did not open it.

Flac or Bineaz:

I need a disclaimer for my work lotto pool game. I am the Lotto Captain.
What can I write on the Lotto list to make it less likely that a bogus coworker will try to get on the band wagon for free?
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Postby Falc on 24 Aug 2007, 09:14

agentesecreto wrote:Thanks for the warning. I did not open it.

Flac or Bineaz:

I need a disclaimer for my work lotto pool game. I am the Lotto Captain.
What can I write on the Lotto list to make it less likely that a bogus coworker will try to get on the band wagon for free?
Please consider this your community work.


Draw a simple agreement that lists who is taking part in the pool, what is the contribution expected for each drawing, how long the agreement will be in place and that any winnings will be divided evenly. You may want to put in a clause that small winnings will be used towards the purchase of more lotto tickets.

Keep an accounting of the contributions. If you want to be truly anal, get a receipt book. If you keep accurate records of the moneys you receive, then you have it as evidence to contradict Mr. Bogus.

Stay consistent. Everyone in the group has to make their contributions. No taking a break this week. Don't allow someone to put into the pool every once in a while or a one-time thing. Then someone can make the argument that it is something you did from time-to-time and that they were in the pool when you hit it big. Your problem is that you are collecting cash, so there probably is not any paper trail.

If you bring in someone new, have them sign an agreement and attach it as an addendum to your original. Do the same when someone leaves. Have on record changes to the group and get signatures, especially those who leave.

Find yourself a co-captain. Someone who witnesses what you do, co-signs the agreements, is able to testify on your behalf. You want to avoid a he-said/she said scenario. If you allow new people to come into the group, make it a group vote. Then make minutes of that vote, whether the individual is approved or not, and keep it in your records. Not only will you have a record but witnesses to contest Mr. Bogus.

Finally, protect yourself. Have someone verify that you purchased those 100 lotto tickets. If you can get a receipt, good. If you need to put the losing tickets in some file system, that works. Don't get yourself in a situation where you are accused of pocketing some of the money.

Just use common sense.
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Postby Leonid on 24 Aug 2007, 09:26

"Just use common sense"

Play lotto to get rich - that makes sense, common sense if you will. LOL
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Postby lillie on 24 Aug 2007, 09:57

Lol...perhaps you could get into something like this, for percentage, normal agent fee 10 or 15 %?


Anyone interested in organising some "feel sorry for me" tournament in talkshows for the guy from Moscow who was lit up by his ex. wife in order to get him reconstructive surgery for his jewels. He could be on various talkshows and be introduced with either The Door's "Light My Fire" or Bruce Springsteen's "I'm on Fire" ;)



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Postby bineaz on 24 Aug 2007, 14:28

palo, what Falc said. Very complete advice. Just make sure other people see what you do.
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Postby agentesecreto on 24 Aug 2007, 22:41

thanks guys. I never knew playing Lotto could be so much fu.

I will write up a thing to protect my future winnings.
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Postby bineaz on 11 Sep 2007, 15:51

The Jewish man said, "Last week, my wife and I had great sex. I
rubbed her body all over with schmaltz (chicken fat), we made
passionate love, and she screamed for five full minutes at the
End !"

The Frenchman boasted, "Last week when my wife and I had sex, I
rubbed her body all over with butter. We then made passionate love
and she screamed for fifteen minutes !"

The Italian man said, "Well, last week my wife and I also had sex.

I rubbed her body all over with olive oil. We made love, and she
Screamed for over six hours !"

The other two were stunned. The amazed Frenchman said
"What could you have possibly done to make your wife scream for six hours ?"

The Italian man said, " I wiped my hands on the
bedspread.
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Postby Always on 11 Sep 2007, 21:06

The correct ending to that joke is "cleaned my cock on the curtains", that wya you can avoid any mentions of butter and the like.
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Postby agentesecreto on 11 Sep 2007, 22:55

you are a perv.
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Postby Always on 12 Sep 2007, 21:49

You say that like I should feel ashamed.
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Postby agentesecreto on 13 Sep 2007, 01:39

he he
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Postby Arcade Fire on 14 Sep 2007, 19:54

There's a new hire car out in Portugal. It's small, and if you can't get all your kids inside you can fit one in the boot. It's called the Renault McCann. :cool:

An angry wife met her husband at the door. There was alcohol on his breath and lipstick on his collar. "I assume," she snarled, "that there is a very good reason for you to come waltzing in here at six o'clock in the morning?"


"There is," he replied. "Breakfast." :lol:


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Postby Falc on 24 Sep 2007, 16:52

A woman was at her hairdresser's getting her hair styled for a trip to Rome with her husband. She mentioned the trip to the hairdresser, who responded, " Rome ? Why would anyone want to go there? It's crowded and dirty. You're crazy to go to Rome . So, how are you getting there?

We're taking Continental," was the reply. "We got a great rate!"

"Continental?" exclaimed the hairdresser. "That's a terrible airline. Their planes are old, their flight attendants are ugly and they're always late. So, where are you staying in Rome ?"

"We'll be at this exclusive little place over on Rome's Tiber River called Teste."

"Don't go any further. I know that place Everybody thinks it's gonna be something special and exclusive, but it's really a dump, the worst hotel in the city! The rooms are small, the service is surly and they're overpriced. So, whatcha' doing when you get there?"

"We're going to go to see the Vatican and we hope to see the Pope."

"That's rich," laughed the hairdresser, "You and a million other People trying to see him. He'll look the size of an ant. Boy, good luck on this lousy trip of yours. You're going to need it."

A month later, the woman again came in for a hairdo. The hairdresser asked her about her trip to Rome ..

"It was wonderful!" exclaimed the woman, "Not only were we on time in one of Continental's brand new planes, but it was overbooked and they bumped us up to first class. The food and wine were wonderful. And I had a handsome 28-year-old steward who waited on me hand and foot. And the hotel was great! They'd just finished a $5 million remodeling job and now it's a jewel, the finest hotel in the city. They, too, were overbooked, so they apologized and gave us their "owner's suite at no extra charge!"

Well," muttered the hairdresser, "that's all well and good, but I know you didn't get to see the Pope."

"Actually, we were quite lucky, because as we toured the Vatican a Swiss Guard tapped me on the shoulder and explained that the Pope likes to meet some of the visitors, and if I'd be so kind as to step into his private room and wait the Pope would personally greet me. Sure enough, five minutes later, the Pope walked through the door and shook my hand! I knelt down and he spoke a few words to me."

"Oh, really! What'd he say?"

He said, "Where'd you get the shitty haircut?
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Postby Arcade Fire on 24 Sep 2007, 18:46

haha :lol:
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Postby Pabs on 24 Sep 2007, 20:56

hahahaha, I like....
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Postby agentesecreto on 25 Sep 2007, 01:45

LOL. good one Falc.
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Postby Always on 25 Sep 2007, 15:21

For all the religous folk here:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NaEj3g5GOYA
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Postby agentesecreto on 26 Sep 2007, 00:30

your mama.
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Postby bineaz on 05 Oct 2007, 10:57

hehehe

Old news here tronche

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Postby Eugene Berkovich on 11 Oct 2007, 09:24

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A Super Offer! Buy 4 get 1 Free!
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Note: Ritual Services - Second Floor!
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Note: May 27 (Holy Trinity Day), a free trip to Novosibirsk crematorium will be organized
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The ad - "Falling Prices!"
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Sign on the large building - "Building near the Sea"
Sign on the small building - "The Sea"
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The printed Sign - "Do not park here. Administration"
The handwritten sign - "Fuck it, I live here"
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The ad: Use the blow-drier that does not dry
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The sign: "Do not knock - they won't open!"
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My caption: On the shining path to communism!
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My caption: Birth defect
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Sign: "Stop shitting in the elevator - SUBHUMANS!!!! If I catch you I will cut your heart out!!!! resident."
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Top Sign: "Before crossing make sure there is no train!"
Bottom sign: "We build memorial headstones"
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This is just a bit bizarre....
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Postby bineaz on 16 Oct 2007, 15:30

LOL @ the road to communism.

Here's something different. Too bad they didn't have better aim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM
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Postby lillie on 07 Nov 2007, 09:02

Lol at some of the pictures 'Genie..on that "Shining path to communism"..I can't help thinking it might be a paraphrase on the Kitaj-gorod station in Moscow's subway where the doors open to the right (as an exception because mostly the doors open to the left in the train's direction).


Don't we just love the wilderness?

A bear and a rabbit ruled in the forset. They were loud, fighting, scared the other animals and showed no respect whatsoever to anyone else. The rabbit got towed around now and then as well by the bear just because he was so little.

The rabbit wasn't that empathic about the bear really but since that was the only company he found in the forest he put up with it. One day though the encountered a toad.

The bear roamed "You're going to get beaten up, nobody is going to use my path as a rest place!"

The toad screamed in horror:" Wait, wait, if you spare me you're going to get three wishes each!"

The rabbit replied:" If you're lying, I'm going to have you drowned."

The bear took on his first wish, he thought for a while and said. "I wish that all bears in this forest are female, except me!"

And so it was.

Then it was rabbits turn. He said: "I want a helmet." And so it was. The bear went furious on the stupid rabbit and smacked him on his head and roared: "Are you so stupid that you wish for a helmet when you can have whatever you want?!?!" to which the rabbit just replied "But I want a helmet".

"Well..." said the bear and thought about his second wish..and he tried to think larger..."I want all bears in this country to be female except me!"

And so it was.

Rabbit thought and said: "I want a cross". And so it was.

The bear went even more furious with the rabbit and striked him again.

And approached his third wish "I want all the bears in the whole world to be female except me!" And so it was.

So it was time for the rabbits third wish. He jumped up on the cross, layered it and shouted "I wish the bear is gay!"
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Postby lillie on 09 Nov 2007, 08:31

I have another of those fun photos, but I haven't really figured whether it's ridiculing male thinking or russian (while of course it could be some other too but the language is written in Russian).

It's two guys working , they have just finished the work of inserting two cast iron posts in the ground, firmly fixed in concrete. And their tidying up and loading their blue van with their tools. The fun part is that there were other cast iron posts in the area before and with those last two they added you can sit with a ruler and laugh becuse they won't be able to get out of there with their van.
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Postby Always on 12 Nov 2007, 07:11

Pretty useless to describe the pic instead of posting it but I know the one you're talking about and it's fake.
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Postby lillie on 12 Nov 2007, 07:54

Newsflash: most of those pictures are fake (or constructed), but they can be rather illustrative anyway. This below isn't a fake painting though, mexican artist lesbian woman suffers miscarriage in the Henry Ford bed.

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Postby lillie on 12 Nov 2007, 09:28

Well Tronche, consider a read up on Kahlo

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/featur ... cimer.html

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After Trotsky was assassinated, however, Kahlo turned on her old lover with a vengeance, claiming in an interview that Trotsky was a coward and had stolen from her while he stayed in her house (which wasn't true). "He irritated me from the time that he arrived with his pretentiousness, his pedantry because he thought he was a big deal," she said.

Rarely is this unflattering detail included in the condensed Kahlo story. Nor is the fact that Kahlo turned on Trotsky because she had become a devout Stalinist. Kahlo continued to worship Stalin even after it had become common knowledge that he was responsible for the deaths of millions of people, not to mention Trotsky himself. One of Kahlo's last paintings was called "Stalin and I," and her diary is full of her adolescent scribblings ("Viva Stalin!") about Stalin and her desire to meet him. Less scandalous but worth noting is that Kahlo despised the very gringos who now champion her work, and her art reflects her obvious disdain for the United States. One wonders what the postal service was thinking when it put Kahlo on a stamp. "Visas are denied to [foreign] artists with Frida Kahlo's politics," notes Chadwick

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Postby lillie on 12 Nov 2007, 09:36

Always,

there's a lot of fakes not only in the business of humour. Myself wonder sometimes whether I have a "double" in Khodorkovsky's defense team, there's one who just looks like a cut & paste copy of me from the graduation picture of the law programme in 1997. Graduated with just as high marks in company law, taxation and bankrupcy legislation as one of Sweden's most (in)famous "mob" lawyers, the same school as well though I believe he graduated one year before me.

But since I've been at this job, legally "nuking" companies for the state (in another country than Russia though, which I never even have visited) since 1999 and am not the kind who would do side orders it must of course be a double, what kind of moron would shoulder fraudulent posture in such a venue?
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Postby agentesecreto on 12 Nov 2007, 10:03

Frida was a crazy communist lesbo.
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Postby lillie on 12 Nov 2007, 10:34

Yes she was. I've never appreciated her work even if it's part of "general knowledge" ("allmänbildning" in Swedish), her political fraternations is not that well known but if you've studied communism, art and culture you've likely stumbled over her carcass.


After Trotsky was assassinated, however, Kahlo turned on her old lover with a vengeance, claiming in an interview that Trotsky was a coward and had stolen from her while he stayed in her house (which wasn't true). "He irritated me from the time that he arrived with his pretentiousness, his pedantry because he thought he was a big deal," she said.

Rarely is this unflattering detail included in the condensed Kahlo story. Nor is the fact that Kahlo turned on Trotsky because she had become a devout Stalinist. Kahlo continued to worship Stalin even after it had become common knowledge that he was responsible for the deaths of millions of people, not to mention Trotsky himself. One of Kahlo's last paintings was called "Stalin and I," and her diary is full of her adolescent scribblings ("Viva Stalin!") about Stalin and her desire to meet him. Less scandalous but worth noting is that Kahlo despised the very gringos who now champion her work, and her art reflects her obvious disdain for the United States. One wonders what the postal service was thinking when it put Kahlo on a stamp. "Visas are denied to [foreign] artists with Frida Kahlo's politics," notes Chadwick.


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Postby agentesecreto on 12 Nov 2007, 12:11

Her ideas are very wel known in Latin America and in the art community. They may not be known in Europe but teh again, things i Latin America are not usually well known over there. Same as European stuff here. Even in the USA, Europe is an afterthought.

The ideals of Frida, her fat boyfriend , Orosco and Siqueiros are very well documented.
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Postby lillie on 12 Nov 2007, 12:41

Well...her political ideas (or rather lack of it as she was like a stupid teenager..but many women are like that) may not be that familiar in Europe (and likely not in parts of the liberal Hollywood where they celebrate freedom of speech to great lengths yet put someone like Kahlo on piedestal).

I wouldn't be surprised that it would be in Latin Amerika, as I said to Leo, there are Latin Americans who often have russian inspired names (from the revolution). Not maybe as their first name but as a middle or similar.

The ideals of Frida, her fat boyfriend , Orosco and Siqueiros are very well documented


Some people have likened the "Web 2.0" era to indoctrinating communism, i.e. not the fairly and humanistic communism that Engels & Marx elaborated on. Which actually have been given credit to some degree by Norman Mailer, a jew who sadly recently passed away, elaborated of christian socialism as a political socio economic standard (he was doubtful of the human as well as the economic price tag of full flooded globalisation). And note, that from a jewish man (while Madonna studies Kabbalah and praise Frida Kahlo along with a lot of other liberals that would have been dragged out and shot in the neck by nearest crossroad if Stalin, who Frida swooned for, would have had a say).

“What defines the best minds,” Keen argues, “is their ability to go beyond the ‘wisdom’ of the crowd and mainstream opinion.” Wikipedia is premised on a contrary theory of truth that would have seemed familiar to George Orwell: if the crowd says that two plus two equals five, then two plus two really does equal five.

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“Instead of a dictatorship of experts, we’ll have a dictatorship of idiots,” says Keen, who finds classic signs of totalitarianism in Silicon Valley. “Anyone who disagrees is wrong. These people manifest some of the symptoms of 19th century Russian idealists and utopians, who think that their vision of the world is going to change everything for the better.”

At

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol ... 874668.ece

In the article is also told about how an expert on a matter was met when he tried to correct inaccuracies in a piece concerning just that matter at Wikipedia.
Far too often reason becomes the domisticated serf of purpose.
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