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Re: General Chat

Postby Leonid on 08 Sep 2008, 19:37

Once a role model, Detroit mayor’s is now just another black man serving time

Detroit is America’s poster child for urban dysfunction. The city boasts a national-low 25 percent high school graduation rate, a 49-percent adult-illiteracy rate, and a consistently good shot at the “America’s most violent city” award.

All these ills are grounded in the city’s staggering 85 percent illegitimacy rate, a direct result of an inner-city culture of fatherless black families.

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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 08 Sep 2008, 21:05

That is quite an interesting summary/ The right wing model of economics assumes that the 20 percent who control most of the resouces will somehow find it in their heart to do the right thing.


Yeah, nice!

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Israel has been in the business of expoting violence and weapons for quite a few years.

Just google, Israeli weapons, Central America and death squads and see what you get.

Mother fucklers were responsible for women and children being kidnapped by death squads trained by their "technical assistants"to the USA during the Cold war that raveged Central America,
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Re: General Chat

Postby Pabs on 08 Sep 2008, 21:27

Well. Whites have left Detriot and look what it's become -- a true hell hole.

I heard about that mayor. The fact that a piece-of-shit like him even got elected summizes just how bad it is there.

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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 08 Sep 2008, 21:33

Not the white trash and country kin, like cousin Billy, who happens to be married to Sarah Louise Lynn, who is second cousin to Maryann and barbabalynn, our grampa's baby cousin.
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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 08 Sep 2008, 21:36

Just to follow up on my earlier claim: Abd old NY Times article.

1. ISRAEL: MERCHANT OF DEATH IN CENTRAL AMERICA
President Reagan's policy objectives in Central America circumvent Congressional objections with little known help from Israel.

Israel, now the fifth biggest exporter of arms in the world, is the largest supplier of weapons to Latin America. It also is a major source of training in intelligence and counterinsurgency techniques.

Israel "helps" Reagan policies by supporting the "contras" fighting the Sandinista government in Nicaragua; aids El-Salvador despite continuing human rights violations and right wing death squads; is turning Honduras into the chief gendarme of Central America; is building up Costa Rica's security forces; and supplying Guatemala with weapons to fight increasing opposition.

Honduras: Israeli weapons go to U.S. backed counter-revolutionaries seeking to overthrow the Nicaraguan government from bases in Honduras. U.S. officials admit that Israeli assistance is important in achieving Reagan-administration military and political goals.

El Salvador: Israeli aid to El Salvador comes from U.S. military and economic aid to Israel. Meanwhile, some of the most vocal congressional critics of Reagan policies in El Salvador are also unquestioning supporters of aid to Israel.

Guatemala: Since 1976, Israel has been the main provider of weapons, aircraft, and training to Guatemala. Israel has trained Guatemalan military in the use of terror and interrogation techniques. Some of Israel's most advanced electronic and computer technologies have been installed in Guatemala; hit lists used by the death squads have been computerized.

Costa Rica: Although Costa Rica has no army, Israeli military trainers and arms are beginning to pour into the country.

Israeli's support for repressive regimes in Central America is not new. After Somoza's National Guard killed journalists in 1978, President Carter cut off all aid to Nicaragua. Israel, bolstered by U.S. aid, picked up the slack and provided 98% of Somoza's arms until July 2, 1979, just two weeks before the Sandinistas won the final battle.

Much of the military aid to war-torn Central America comes from the United States through Israel. Israel is the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid. Israel receives about one-third of all U.S. foreign aid which in the last 10 years amounted to about $25 billion or roughly $7 million a day.

We cannot stop U.S. military aid to repressive forces in Central America without forcing Israel to stop sending arms there also.

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COVERT ACTION INFORMATION BULLETIN, Winter, 1984, "Israeli Arms in Central America, by Clarence Lusane; NEW YORK TIMES, 12/17/82, "Israel Stepping Up Arms Sales to Central America " by Leslie H. Gelb.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Pabs on 08 Sep 2008, 21:44

palo

I have NEVER been in the US South but I think you are exaggerating.

I know for sure inbreeding and incest occurs in South Asia. Like Bangladesh, Pakistan, India. Everytime you see some freak of nature with 2 heads or 4 arms, it's always from these 3 country's.

And I mention this now because yesterday I saw some brown lady (clearly from one of these countries) who had what appeared to be a 6th finger trying to grow on her right hand (about 2 inches over from the thumb). It had no bone structure (because it kept flopping around)and was only about 2 inches and very thin.

I was absolutely DISGUSTED. I never saw an American from the south have something like this.
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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 08 Sep 2008, 21:56

you ever been to Kintucky or the Ozarks?
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Re: General Chat

Postby Pabs on 08 Sep 2008, 22:08

No.

Have you ?
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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 08 Sep 2008, 22:27

I dated a ho from Kintucky. She had ost of her teeth and would crack up at the stories of familial love.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Falc on 09 Sep 2008, 01:30

To follow on Mate's comments about worthless executives ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/busin ... rd.html?em
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Re: General Chat

Postby Peyman A on 09 Sep 2008, 02:27

Pabs wrote:palo

I have NEVER been in the US South but I think you are exaggerating.

I know for sure inbreeding and incest occurs in South Asia. Like Bangladesh, Pakistan, India. Everytime you see some freak of nature with 2 heads or 4 arms, it's always from these 3 country's.

And I mention this now because yesterday I saw some brown lady (clearly from one of these countries) who had what appeared to be a 6th finger trying to grow on her right hand (about 2 inches over from the thumb). It had no bone structure (because it kept flopping around)and was only about 2 inches and very thin.

I was absolutely DISGUSTED. I never saw an American from the south have something like this.


Could it be that 'Americans from the South' know more about birth control and have better access to it?
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Re: General Chat

Postby Pabs on 09 Sep 2008, 07:08

peyman

I know what you are saying but this doesn't really make much sense.

You are essentially saying that they are smart enough to use protection but unsophisticated enough to inbreed ? Come on. The two thing are pretty much interrelated, no ?

palo is just exaggerating. And the South is not as poor as stereotypes make it out to be.
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Re: General Chat

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Re: General Chat

Postby Aircalzinho Paulista on 09 Sep 2008, 17:38

"palo is just exaggerating. And the South is not as poor as stereotypes make it out to be."

oh yes it is.....

I've knew a girl with 6 toes on one foot... she's born and bread Amerikan.... things like this are not exclusive to Bangladesh, Pakistan, or India.
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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 09 Sep 2008, 21:30

The marginalized folks from the Smokey mountains and the nearby areas wouldn't know what to do with a condom if they ate one.

Look at this:

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Re: General Chat

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Re: General Chat

Postby Leonid on 09 Sep 2008, 23:16

Politics and the Fannie Mae Piggy Bank
Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, and some very cooked books.


Editor’s note — The impending federal bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac has shed light not only on the seriousness of current housing market conditions but also on the mismanagement and corruption that helped cripple the mortgage giants. Although political figures from both parties have profited mightily from Fannie Mae, it has been a particular favorite of former officials of Democratic administrations, as NR’s Byron York found out when he looked into the situation in the summer of 2006.


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Re: General Chat

Postby mate on 10 Sep 2008, 00:09

Falc wrote:To follow on Mate's comments about worthless executives ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/busin ... rd.html?em



You ain't seen nothing yet. But like I said, the American people deserve everything that is happening to them. These types of executives are what our culture produces...incompetent, self serving, and highly ignorant of the damage they are doing to the greater economy.

There are good executives in this country, but they too are increasingly becoming Palinized. They look and sound good, but their performance is anything but good.
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Re: General Chat

Postby mate on 10 Sep 2008, 00:15

Leonid wrote:Politics and the Fannie Mae Piggy Bank
Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, and some very cooked books.


Editor’s note — The impending federal bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac has shed light not only on the seriousness of current housing market conditions but also on the mismanagement and corruption that helped cripple the mortgage giants. Although political figures from both parties have profited mightily from Fannie Mae, it has been a particular favorite of former officials of Democratic administrations, as NR’s Byron York found out when he looked into the situation in the summer of 2006.


http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ND ... U4NDg1Y2Q=



Leo, you utterly miss the plot if when you try to apply partisan politics to something way beyond that. Read Falc's article. For once, somebody had the guts to call the latest financial crisis what it is: criminal corruption. It is increasingly happening in Silicon Valley, where the best and brightest engineers increasingly are getting less a cut of the pie in venture funded companies. Outsourcing is now the rule as opposed to the exception.

Cronyism is a reality now, more than ever. Entrenched elites in nearly every dimension of American life are skimming unfairly by pimping worthless goods and services. And yes, I was fortunate enough on occasion to be on the side of the pimps. Membership has its privileges.

:wink:

Seriously, what I see just isn't how I was brought up. And, I can assure you it is not about political affiliation.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Pabs on 10 Sep 2008, 00:21

playing England tomorrow, huh ?
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Re: General Chat

Postby Falc on 10 Sep 2008, 00:40

mate wrote:There are good executives in this country, but they too are increasingly becoming Palinized. They look and sound good, but their performance is anything but good.


We could say that they are increasingly becoming Obamanized except for the fact that he has no executive experience.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Leonid on 10 Sep 2008, 01:03

"Brazil is the only country in the world where drug dealers snort cocaine, prostitutes have orgasms and footballers have bent legs".

Sublime.

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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 10 Sep 2008, 09:08

Come out of the closet, Evangelical freak and get your free donuts.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Falc on 10 Sep 2008, 10:57

Sexist pig!

LOL - That pix is funny but also gross.
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Re: General Chat

Postby bineaz on 10 Sep 2008, 11:44

LMAO @ Cheney's incest remark--what an asshole. Then again lots of W. Virginia voters may think: "there's a politician that really knows what I'm about"….
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Re: General Chat

Postby Falc on 10 Sep 2008, 11:56

Hey, hey, hey there Bineaz. You folks from Illinois find your own backward state to pick on. Picking on West Virginia is solely within the jurisdiction of Maryland, Virginia and DC.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Leonid on 10 Sep 2008, 19:19

Mate, sure I miss the plot. I always do. Remember Ms.Gorelick and how she prohibited the CIA folks communicating to the FBI folks, prior 9/11? Now we've just learned how she makes millions of dollars off OUR mortgages.

And, according to some insiders, she's going to be appointed as AG by Barack Obama. That's "the change we can (and must!) vote for", to you.
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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 10 Sep 2008, 20:13

Is Obama running to be President of Jewishland or Munchkin Land?
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Re: General Chat

Postby agentesecreto on 11 Sep 2008, 01:48

McCain, Palin to campaign together
After Alaska trip, she'll be back by his side as early as next week, aide says
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FAIRBANKS, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will spend much of the next few weeks campaigning with Sen. John McCain, a move that not only capitalizes on the Republican enthusiasm for the vice presidential nominee but also limits her exposure to the news media.

Palin, the little-known, first-term governor thrust into the national spotlight, arrived back in Alaska on Wednesday evening, her first trip home since being named to the ticket. She and her husband, Todd, boarded the plane after McCain and his wife, Cindy, escorted them to the aircraft.

Palin arrived in Fairbanks to find supporters jammed in an aircraft hangar, there to see Palin's first appearance in Alaska since McCain named her to the national ticket Aug. 29.

A crowd, estimated by the organizers, the Alaska Republican Party, at 3,000 went wild when Palin entered, shouting: "Sarah! Palin!"

Palin told the crowd: "John McCain and I are ready, and with your help, we are going to win."

The two are expected to begin appearing together again as early as next week, said a McCain adviser aboard Palin's flight.

McCain and Palin traveling together limits her exposure to reporters and gives McCain's top aides more control of her. Palin has not done interviews since the first and only one she gave to People magazine on the day McCain introduced her as his vice presidential choice.
Palin's plane made a brief refueling stop in Montana to finish the trip to Fairbanks. She is scheduled to make at least two public appearances in Alaska, including a homecoming rally set for Wednesday evening in Fairbanks.

She also is scheduled for an interview with ABC News on Thursday, but no other media interviews are scheduled, campaign officials said. The campaign repeatedly has denied other interview requests.

Reporters flock to first solo effort
This is Palin's first venture away from McCain and his advisers, although several of the campaign's staff accompanied her to Alaska. She did not interact with reporters during the flight.

Palin's first solo campaign trip drew a crowd of reporters so large that campaign officials had to force them to sacrifice 400 pounds of equipment and luggage before the plane could leave Dulles International Airport outside Washington.

Meanwhile, in Palin's hometown of Wasilla, Alaska, a small group of supporters of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama marched up and down a highway, chanting slogans and holding signs that said "8 years is Enough" and "Obama! Believe." Palin was mayor of the town of about 7,000 residents from 1996-2002. Some drivers honked and waved in support of Obama; others stopped and yelled "Sarah!"

Earlier Wednesday, the Republican nominees equated lawmakers' requests for funding for special projects with corruption on Wednesday even though Palin herself has requested nearly $200 million in so-called "earmarks" this year.

Campaigning in Virginia, McCain suggested earmarks are particularly shameful at a time when families are struggling with rising food, gas and home mortgage costs. He vowed again to veto any bill that contains such funding.

"I got an old ink pen, my friends, and the first pork barrel-laden earmark, big-spending bill that comes across my desk, I will veto it. You will know their names. I will make them famous and we'll stop this corruption," McCain said during a rally at a park in suburban Washington, D.C.

Seeking $197 million in earmarks
Palin has sought $197 million worth of earmarks for 2009, down about 25 percent from the $256 million she sought in the 2008 budget year. As mayor of tiny Wasilla, Alaska, she hired a lobbyist to seek federal money for special projects. Wasilla obtained 14 earmarks, totaling $27 million, between 2000-2003, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama hasn't asked for any earmarks this year. The Illinois senator sought $311 million in such funding last year. McCain, an Arizona senator, doesn't seek earmarks for his state.

Undaunted by his running mate's ties to earmarks, McCain said: "I've fought corruption, and it didn't matter if it was Democrats or Republican, and so has Sarah Palin."

Palin said she has "championed earmark reform" as governor and "reformed the abuses of earmarks in our state." Now, she said, she is ready to join McCain in Washington "so we can end the corrupt practice of abusive earmarks after all."


They're tough to resist
The practice of earmarking — lawmakers inserting special requests for money for home-state projects in spending bills — is a longtime anti-Washington bugaboo for politicians running for office. Many find that, once in office, requests from constituents for help on a particular project is too tough to resist and support bringing that kind of money home to their states and districts.

"John McCain's idea of changing Washington is a vice-presidential candidate who, as governor, requested more pork per person than any other state in the country," said Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor.

Still, McCain and Palin's attack on earmarks in the face of those she has requested joins other statements by the vice presidential nominee that have been widely debunked:

Palin routinely claims to have put an end to Alaska's infamous "bridge to nowhere," even though she supported the project during her gubernatorial campaign and turned against it only when it became a national embarrassment and Congress threatened to cut its funding.
Palin has claimed that she put the governor's jet on the Internet auction site eBay, and McCain has said it was sold at a profit. However, the jet was never sold via eBay.
Palin says she eliminated the governor's chef from the state budget, yet she gave the person another job in state government.
Biggest campaign crowd
McCain aides said Wednesday's event attracted the biggest non-convention crowd of his campaign, with local officials reporting an estimated 23,000 at the event. People filled the grass and hillsides to make a sea of red, as the state GOP exhorted everyone coming to wear the hue in a sign of support for the party, and they often drowned out the candidates' words with chanting.

Judging by shouts from the crowd, the enthusiasm seemed driven primarily by the presence of Palin. She has electrified both McCain's campaign and the party since he announced her as his running mate almost two weeks ago.

The reaction was significantly different in Philadelphia.

McCain made a solo trip for a round-table discussion with half a dozen female business leaders at the Down Home Diner. The appearance, inside a bustling indoor downtown marketplace, formed a sharp contrast with the earlier joint show, as the arrival of both McCain's bus outside and him inside was greeted by loud Obama crowds.

The Republican could barely be heard over the Obama cheers by the women he met, or by reporters when McCain made a statement after.

"Pennsylvania is a battleground state, as we can tell," he said with a small smile.


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Re: General Chat

Postby Falc on 11 Sep 2008, 10:49

So a governor of a state is seeking federal funds. And the media is trying to make an issue of it? All she is doing is asking. Much different than a Senator or Congressman funnelling money into his state or district. Wake up Opalo and try to understand how the world works. As for Obama not seeking earmarks this year, can anyone say how many days he has spent in the halls of Congress this term?
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Re: General Chat

Postby Casati on 11 Sep 2008, 11:10

Falc wrote:So a governor of a state is seeking federal funds. And the media is trying to make an issue of it? All she is doing is asking. Much different than a Senator or Congressman funnelling money into his state or district. Wake up Opalo and try to understand how the world works. As for Obama not seeking earmarks this year, can anyone say how many days he has spent in the halls of Congress this term?


You're missing the point: Palin is a phoney. First she campaigns that she is for the bridge to no where and after she gets elected she tells Congress that she will not use the money for the bridge but she will use it for something else.

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Re: General Chat

Postby pramzan on 11 Sep 2008, 11:24

In her defense she spent a lot less, A LOT LESS, as governor of Alaska than the governor before her for everything, including money used for her and her family.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Casati on 11 Sep 2008, 11:27

pramzan wrote:In her defense she spent a lot less, A LOT LESS, as governor of Alaska than the governor before her for everything, including money used for her and her family.


But she misused the travel money for her family. When I travel on business I can't pay for my family and neither can Palin. She got caught red handed on that one.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Falc on 11 Sep 2008, 13:49

The travel for the children were allowed in Alaska. The former governor spent more. The money on the bridge to nowhere was used elsewhere in the state. Do you think she is stupid? She did not make the appropriations. Congress did. If your blind governor turned money back, would you be happy?
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Re: General Chat

Postby Casati on 11 Sep 2008, 14:26

Falc - no. Travel money is for the governor only. It does not state that the family's expenses can be picked up by the state. Palin erred in this.

And you're missing the point with the bridge to nowhere. She lied about supporting it in order to get elected. Then she changed her mind. She's a phoney. PERIOD!
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Re: General Chat

Postby Leonid on 11 Sep 2008, 16:01

You cannot change your mind if you're a Republican right-wing extremist. Only Democrats are allowed to. Because Democrats are the only hope of the mankind. They're progressive folks who learn and grow in stature on the job.

It boggles the mind why would progressive spelling-challenged streisands of the world be so scared of a backward phoney from Alaska:)
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Re: General Chat

Postby Falc on 11 Sep 2008, 16:35

While we discuss the use of lipstick, who is phoney, how poorly our NT played this week, etc......

Let's not forget the historical significance of today and say a prayer for those who suffered and that it will never happen again.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Leonid on 11 Sep 2008, 16:39

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Re: General Chat

Postby mate on 11 Sep 2008, 17:38

Amen to that.
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Re: General Chat

Postby Pabs on 11 Sep 2008, 18:47

RIP :cry:
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