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by **Pabs** on 12 Jul 2008, 18:15

Pele rejects 'modern slavery' comment

STOKE, England -- Pele dismissed FIFA president Sepp Blatter's comment that soccer players are often bound to teams in a form of "modern slavery."

Blatter spoke in response to Cristiano Ronaldo's standoff with Manchester United over a move to Real Madrid, saying players seeking a transfer should be allowed to leave. Blatter told Sky News that "in football there is too much modern slavery."

"You are a slave if you work without a contract or you don't get paid," said Pele, a three-time World Cup winner with Brazil. "If you have a contract then in any job you have to finish the contract. I think that when he finishes his contract, then he should be free to go wherever he wants to go."

Ronaldo has almost four years left on his contract. While no transfer request has been submitted, the 23-year-old player of the year in England has said he would like a transfer to Madrid.

Pele was in Stoke on Saturday for a charity game in support of a foundation by former England goalkeeper Gordon Banks. At the 1970 World Cup in Mexico, Banks stopped a shot by Pele that is considered one of the greatest saves in soccer history.

by **Pabs** on 12 Jul 2008, 18:18

Blatter's an idiot

to call paying a guy MILLIONS of dollars "slavery". Oh boo hoo, Ronaldo has to honour his CONTRACT. ARGH, I hate this cocksucker even more.

And if Blatters so against slavery why doesn't he speak up against the real slavery that still goes on in under-developed nations even today. fucking people.... how the hell did this fucking jerk get this job in the first place.

by **mate** on 13 Jul 2008, 03:41

Blatter is a technocratic piece of garbage who barely understands that a football is round. Slavery? For making immense millions of dollars and having any hedonistic pleasure? What the fuck is this world coming to?

We the fans are the big idiots for financing this greed.

by **Peyman A** on 13 Jul 2008, 05:24

agentesecreto wrote:Nice spin but in rich or not, football players are treated as slaves. They are controlled as property and that my friend, is the principle of slavery. Don't let the golden shackles fool you.

Did you think before you wrote this?
Football players have a choice when they are offered cntracts. No one forces them to sign it. They do something they love for which get very very very well-paid. Are you seriously equating this to slavery? This is an insult to all those millions of real slaves who were forced to work in jobs they hated for nothing and some even gave their lives.

Palo, do you work? Have you ever been offerd a contract and have you ever ben forced to sign one?

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My real name is Kunta Kinte !! My slave name is Ronaldo and I belong to Fergusons Plantation farm.

by **Peyman A** on 13 Jul 2008, 05:25

mate wrote:Blatter is a technocratic piece of garbage who barely understands that a football is round. Slavery? For making immense millions of dollars and having any hedonistic pleasure? What the fuck is this world coming to?

We the fans are the big idiots for financing this greed.

Pabs and Mate:
you shouldn't talk like that about an honorary member of Real Madrid ;)

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federa...id=107760.html

FIFA President named honorary member of Real Madrid
FIFA President Joseph S. Blatter today received the title of honorary member of Real Madrid and a gold and diamond club badge from Real Madrid president Ramón Calderón at a ceremony held at the Santiago Bernabéu stadium in Madrid.

by **onze** on 13 Jul 2008, 05:45

by **mate** on 13 Jul 2008, 15:57

The corruption and nepotism in FIFA is so blatant that it takes a world weaned on pop culture notions of reality to tacitly uphold this. It might be tangential, but this is why I have reservations about a so called more united world under whatever common jurisdiction. Can you imagine the likes of Blatter determining political, economic, and social issues across the world?

It would be like the UN. Cough. Cough. Cough.

:lol:

by **Pabs** on 13 Jul 2008, 16:14

peyman

I clicked your link but it was not found. Is it true that Blatter is an honourary board member at RM ?

I read a comment on another site that said it best. First Blatter blathers on about spiraling transfer fees, then he ENCOURAGES the highest one ever.

Anyways. I think it will all be forgotten soon enough. It's not like Utd supporters are going to hold it against him come kickoff on opening day. It will be forgotten the second he scores his next goal for them (just like the Rooney incident was forgotten)

What do you think of Quieroz leaving ?

by **agentesecreto** on 13 Jul 2008, 16:18

Peyman, great descendant of slave owner":

Aren't owners allowed to renogiate contracts?

Don't players get traded under contract all the time? So is opting out only an option for the plantation owners?

by **Pabs** on 13 Jul 2008, 16:19

Apparently the life of slaves involve vacationing in Sardinia with his topless model girlfriend...

by **Pabs** on 13 Jul 2008, 16:22

agentesecreto wrote:Peyman, great descendant of slave owner":

Aren't owners allowed to renogiate contracts?

Don't players get traded under contract all the time? So is opting out only an option for the plantation owners?

palo, renegotiating contracts is a North American thing for the most part. And if THAT is in the contract, then of course. But if it isn't then too bad.

And getting traded is something else entirely. Actually, again, being "traded" is a North American sports thing. You're seriously making no sense here (as usual)

by **Pabs** on 13 Jul 2008, 16:24

what a dirty slut. Grabbing him like that in front of kids. Idiot whore that she is.

by **agentesecreto** on 13 Jul 2008, 17:38

you seem to like looking at naked males.

Homo.

by **Falc** on 13 Jul 2008, 20:07

Then don't sign lucrative contracts. Slaves are not enumerated at such high values. Contracts are contracts and it is the same whether between corporations or among chief executives. These guys are overpaid for a game where usually we have to pay in order to participate at the recreational level. The best thing would be for the entire sports industry to come to a crash. Ronaldo had a chance to prove that he is what many think he is but he let this situation with Real Madrid screw his national side attempt to finally win some silverware. He is an idiot, not all that he is made out to be and I hope Manchester United do put the screws on him.

by **Pabs** on 13 Jul 2008, 20:13

Falc

I'm sure it's me, but what does his NT have to do with this discussion ?

I hope he doesn't want to leave for Madrid because of his Spanish GF. Look at how fast Sheva's career went down when he made the same mistake.

Fergie's been in this too long to just give in. Fergie will fuck him over before he gets shown up.

by **Pabs** on 13 Jul 2008, 20:17

BTW

check out palo's new avatar. Oh fuck off. Since when are you into the black powa movement, honkey ?

and notice how palo shows up when the talk is about "slavery" ? Even though he says he hates Cristiano Ronaldo ?

by **Falc** on 13 Jul 2008, 22:11

Pabs - My point about the NT is that it became a distraction for the team. That and Scolari agreeing to take over Chelsea. WTF? Face it, he is just a selfish SOB who worries about himself only. I don't care how talented he is, he'll never be one of the greats if he does not change.

As for Palo, not only does he not like Ronaldo, let's not forget Fake Madrid. Is Palo thinking of running for office, changing with the wind whenever he sees fit?

by **Pabs** on 13 Jul 2008, 22:17

meh, I think Germany was Portugal's demise not any distraction. I know what you're saying though

by **Falc** on 13 Jul 2008, 22:21

Pabs - I would say that the distractions did not do them in per se, but was a negative factor. In other words, instead of full concentration on the task on hand, where the team and the player are able to give their best, it had some effect.

by **Falc** on 13 Jul 2008, 22:23

Let me put it in another way, in 2006 who had the biggest distraction among the teams in Germany? Could of done us in. Instead, Lippi and the teams decided to block it out and put all of their attention on winning the tournament. Now where we could use a winger of Ronaldo's quality, my opinion is that he would be more of a detriment than an asset.

by **agentesecreto** on 14 Jul 2008, 00:48

I am objective enough to see what's right from wrong without my personal feelings being involved. I dislike Fakenaldo and hate Fake Madrid. Yet, I know that players are treated as personal property. For every Fakenaldo, there are hundreds of players being used and abused by team owners and big corporations.

As far as the image of Tommy Smith and John Carlos, it is not about black power. It is about two men who had the courage to make a statement of the conditions of people in color, of poor people in the United States.

I do not forget that the freedoms that non-whites enjoy in this country and others came from the courage of many folks like Rosa Parks. If you have a problem with that, what can I say. That only tells me that you do not undesrtand the plight that many non Wester Europeans enuderd in this continent and worldwide. The reason you're no longet called a 51st stetae Dago is exactly because of the folks you so violently insult.

by **bineaz** on 14 Jul 2008, 12:10

Can anyone remember when Blatter has said or done something that was viewed in a positive light? I think this guy really buys into the "bad publicity is better than no publicity" idea. He is a cynical idiot. It is an insult to human beings that are truly subjected to forced servitude. In the US a team can't force a player to play for them. (Ultimately, personal service contracts are voidable.) But if the player doesn't fulfill his contract, then he doesn't get paid. With noncompete clauses in contracts (and basically trust practices) he can't play for another team either. His choice.

The power struggle between owners and players in the US is mitgated by the strong unions the players have that soccer players do not. In that sense soccer players are skrewed.

by **Peyman A** on 14 Jul 2008, 13:46

I think this incident seriously damaged his brain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu7i5CJq3mg

by **bineaz** on 14 Jul 2008, 14:36

hahaha

I don't know, I think he'd need a harder fall to cause that much brain damage (that or large bribes). hehehe

by **bineaz** on 14 Jul 2008, 14:44

by **Leonid** on 14 Jul 2008, 16:15

If footballers were slaves, they wouldn't be allowed to play for their national teams by those who hold their contracts. There would be no FIFA, UEFA, no Sepp Blatter and Mikhail Platini.

Not such a bad idea. Forza football bondage!

by **agentesecreto** on 14 Jul 2008, 19:08

Bineaz:

Players are treated like property. Spin in as your training may allow but there is something above the law, and that is what's right. The bottom line is footballers are treated like meat.

by **agentesecreto** on 14 Jul 2008, 19:12

FIFA is just the plantation owner, moron.

by **Pabs** on 14 Jul 2008, 20:34

for palo... (he knows what they're saying. That's his mama at the end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xHPU6NulM

by **mate** on 15 Jul 2008, 00:47

LOL! That was funny. Too bad Blatter didn't fall into a pit with poisoned spikes.

by **Peyman A** on 15 Jul 2008, 02:22

Palo,
Making comparisons between a footballer who earns millions of $$$$ a year and a slave is appaling.
It is a wish of millions of young people to become footballers, and millions of others wish they could earn the kind of money for just one month in their entire lives.

I wonder how Ronaldo would now like to do an ordinary job like the vast majority of the population, where he'd have to work 4 years to earn what he does now in a single week.

Slave my ass.

by **lillie** on 15 Jul 2008, 12:08

Doesn't this look a bit like Tenet on vacation (picture at Washingtonpost)...?

...and some other thoughts that have sort of boggled my mind (but not really, it's quite an old tango as far as I'm concerned...but what, I'm from Old Europe so please forgive me).

How is a man's ass best to be protected when he turns around after gone up on a throne to prove he's got balls and looked like a damn c*nt?

How come that that Vietnamese general that won against thre countries (and none of which he invaded but merely defended himself agains)...how come his sister ended up at a whorehouse in Houston for the sake of "teaching him a lesson"? If he had won against three countries perhaps it's those countries generals who ought to kindly ask for a lesson?
That general had three wars to deal with and that with considerable less resources at hands than his enemies...what would they "teach" him? That he was not a terriffic pussyguard?!?!?

Has anyone else but me wondered whether they have changed the camerafeed of Politkovskaya's murderer? As I recall it the first feed did not show the woman and the shooter had considerably shorter hair and had the baseballcap drawn lower to cover his eyes...I shouldn't swear for certain but I thought he looked a bit like a asian businessman I've seen a couple of times before (but I don't really know the guy and have never talked to him or so) but I suppose there be dope around on the streets this time as well as after the Iran/iraq and soviet/afghanistan wars that were started in 1980).

by **lillie** on 15 Jul 2008, 12:15

Mate...you once asked me why I'm so wide open.....perhaps that was a faulty question...yeah, you may fill your 41K account as you please but it's not for me to polish chrystal chandeliers at Wall Street since I'm not even allowed to enter USA as I suspect you already know...and thereby it's even less probably I'd be working at some whorehouse in Houston...haven't I failed to erase Pentagon subcontractors mistakes before? Well that is what happen when you rely on cheap labour... did that swedish guy who wrecked the Ferrari in LA have a Doctor in Physics that may have looked like Manuel in Fawlty Towers to fill air in the tires to that Ferrari?

by **lillie** on 15 Jul 2008, 12:19

Well Pabs...an educated guess is that those two girls that were shot on that beach in Thailand were surely once hot as well once and probably given a lot of benefits for shouldering ability they didn't really have...

by **lillie** on 15 Jul 2008, 12:31

Perhaps i should consider getting myself another job...like silencing Tenet's professional weepers and prayermen? But I'd hate to that.

by **lillie** on 15 Jul 2008, 12:49

Oh well....if some people meets the people at the junk drawer (who banned me) tell them they need not worry...that little teenage tick tock from ceBere more is not tin that business anymore (but is unable to work at Houston ho-houses. They have to look after themselves.

by **Peyman A** on 15 Jul 2008, 15:47

The queen of nonsensical monologue is back!

by **Pabs** on 15 Jul 2008, 20:37

WTF is going on the last 5 messages ?

lillie, what girls in Thailand are you referring to ? Never once did I talk about such a topic.

by **Peyman A** on 16 Jul 2008, 02:31

She's been away serving time in prison.
Now she is back and will type 5 lines of completely irrelevant nonsense in response to every word she reads

by **lillie** on 17 Jul 2008, 08:33

Windy City,

why you're a moderator?...well, it's better than being a ambulating pussyguard ain't it? Especially if you've been proved to effectively stop people who could have supplied information that would have avoided a war that is costly both as to money and human lives...well, perhaps we should be greatful for having to to see Rick Salomon's and the likes girlfriends without undies (and where are their pants?).

Perhaps I should try and contact Tenet or some Asian businessman and do some charitable litterpicking (i've done such before). The higheest ranks of various obscure "NATO society" are pretty tanked up with resources that could be useful for the US government to pay for the cost of the war, aren't they? (Sweden is not though a NATO country but there are some in this country as well that they believe they "ought to work for NATO" while NATO and US in specific perhaps should be glad they aren't).