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You're crazy. Get a life, will you?

I would rather have Italy mafia-free than worry about some African gang who deals drugs.

It's the mafia that is ruining (and has ruined) Italy. Not the few illegals who traffic drugs and women.

pramzan wrote:You're crazy. Get a life, will you?

LMAO!

So it's Milan-Inter Sunday night. Inter is looking real good lately. But this is a derby match. You never know.

My Irish-American brother-in-law, who only understands a few words of Italian, found this to be very humorous ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba4npyhFKGw

LMAO--don't need to understand any Italian, over even gestures for that matter.

----- forgot the quiote...

Pabs wrote:hey markino

do you have any idea what's currently going on in Zimbabwe and South Africa ?

This is Europe's future.

Agree 50% The Football world cup will be coming back to Europe as well, so preparation and building of infrastructure for the World cup is definetly in Europe's future. But not so sure if Europe in general will get into cricket anytime soon. Let's face it, it has been around for ages, once you find the energy to follow 3 games you realize that it is actually fun to watch, but if Europe hasn't caught on so far it won't in the future either. Even if reaching Zimbabwe's level shouldn't be too difficult.

Captain Shithead wrote:

Pabs wrote:hey markino

do you have any idea what's currently going on in Zimbabwe and South Africa ?

This is Europe's future.

Agree 50% The Football world cup will be coming back to Europe as well, so preparation and building of infrastructure for the World cup is definetly in Europe's future. But not so sure if Europe in general will get into cricket anytime soon. Let's face it, it has been around for ages, once you find the energy to follow 3 games you realize that it is actually fun to watch, but if Europe hasn't caught on so far it won't in the future either. Even if reaching Zimbabwe's level shouldn't be too difficult.

What?! What the hec does cricket have to do with conversation?

Europe's future! For some reason Pabs thinks that ZImbabwe (cricket nr 1 sport) will be Europes future.

LOL

What's up Tronche? How is PSG doing so far?

pramzan wrote:You're crazy. Get a life, will you?

I would rather have Italy mafia-free than worry about some African gang who deals drugs.

It's the mafia that is ruining (and has ruined) Italy. Not the few illegals who traffic drugs and women.

Instead of telling me to "get a life", maybe you shouldn't reply to me in the first place if you don't like what I have to say. Go make more excuses for knee-grow drug dealers instead of talking to me. Idiot.

Gigli

your pathetic attempt at humour aside, you know very well that I'm talking about how blacks cannot properly run their own country's. As such I am talking about Zimbabwe & South Africa under white rule as opposed to black rule. Nevermind country's, how about city's -- Detroit, USA comes to mind. 'White Flight' has taken hold and with a city 85% black we can see how the pieces fall into place. Good, I'm glad. Let's see them blame whitey on this one. But then again, people like you love this setup. Of course you don't oppose it. Afterall, you're yet another non-white that lives part-time in a European nation.

And tronche, I'm glad to see you find this so funny. Though I don't know why since France has become a true shithole in the last few years with all your undesirables. To keep this on topic, here's the banner shown at a L'OM game -- pathetic. But hey, as long as you show to the world how tolerant you are, all is fine. Now you just have to hope they are tolerant with you back. And next time L'equipe de France plays against Tunisie or Algerie in France, maybe Le Marsielles doesn't get whistled again.

Pabs - You have really proven the last two days that you are the stupidest person around here.

Believing that the mafia/camorra is not Italy's biggest problem, only proves how bigotted you are.

Pabs,

you are exagerating....

Falc,

since the arrival of Makélélé & Guily, PSG is doing much better.We are finaly winning games...but nothing is fixed yet.the coming weeks should be crucial

really, markino ?

Show me where I said such a thing. Go on.

tronche

this is Europe's future if we don't act immediately.

Pabs - Man you really don't get it.

OK, I'll spell it out: you read the article about the six Africans getting killed by the Camorra and you see the African drug dealers as the problem. I read about it and I see the Camorra as the problem.

Since you're a bigot, you can't possibly see the camorra being a bigger problem than African drug dealers in Italy. Otherwise you would have bitched about the Camorra. But you didn't.

Pabs wrote:
tronche

this is Europe's future if we don't act immediately.

We did act...we elected Nicolas Sarkozy....

pramzan wrote:Pabs - Man you really don't get it.

OK, I'll spell it out: you read the article about the six Africans getting killed by the Camorra and you see the African drug dealers as the problem. I read about it and I see the Camorra as the problem.

Since you're a bigot, you can't possibly see the camorra being a bigger problem than African drug dealers in Italy. Otherwise you would have bitched about the Camorra. But you didn't.

Who the fuck even prioritized which is the bigger problem between the 2 ? Don't do anything else but tell me where I stated that. My initial post was a "yawn" in that they are claiming racism was the reason why they were killed. As if the Comorra wouldn't haven't killed white drug dealers. THAT's what I said. And of course the Mafia is partially to blame why illegals are there in the first place. Both groups are responsible for getting European kids hooked on that crap. Why on earth would you think I would defend the mafia ? You must have me mistaken for some dumb American that romantices the mafia after watching too many movies.

And I'd rather be biggotted than be ignorant as to how shitty our beloved continent is becoming. Just remember, history has a way of repeating itself and there is no doubt in my mind that in a few centuries, we will go back a few centuries. I find it sad that for many years Europeans fought each other from invasion, and now we are opening our doors to them while they rape our women, kill our citizens, and change our laws.

Week 4

minor hiccup for Juve today only able to get a draw against Catania. These things happen.

Good news is that Roma & Fiorentina lost. But the 2 Milan sides won. Juve cannot let Inter break away too much or it we will never recover.

Here's hoping Milan show up on Sunday in the Derby !

Juve should have put Catania away. On one sequence, Del Piero and Amauri both hit the cross bar. The Catania keeper came up big. That's the game. Giovinco had his first start and did well. The kid is the future for both Juve and gli Azzurri.

Surprise teams so far are Atalanta and Lazio.

Pabs - Again, you don't understand and I'm tired trying to explain it to you. It has absolutely nothing to do with romanticising the mafia.

You're a bigot.

FYI, with regard to immigration, Albanians, Romanians and some other eastern europeans break more laws, create far more trouble than any African immigrant. But Italy's biggest problem always was, and will always be the mafia.

I saw those African fellas in Rome, mostly in underground passes, selling their faked Gucci, Prada and DG belts, for 7-8 Euros. When carabineri were approaching, they would quietly gather their stuff and disappear. That was all I saw of them.

What's not faked in Rome, unless sold at established joints? Probably every other AC Roma t-shirt sold in Rome is a forgery.

You wanna buy real leather gloves for your girl? Try smart Florentine boutiques, for 300 Euros. But it's fu.cking beautiful, a masterpiece of art.

P.S. Whatever one thinks of illegals, there is one thing worth remembering:

You can penetrate no state's border, unless the country you're entering wants you, for all the obvious reasons.

Leo - Yes.

It's what I tell, all the time to, the Lega Nord supporters who bitch and moan about foreigners in Italy and other ignoramuses who believe we have an illegal immigration problem here in Italy.

We need immigration in Italy because (As you very well know) the jobs Italians used to do, they don't do anymore.

Speaking of fakes, like everything else, there are good fakes and bad ones. Last year when we were at the beach a friend of my wife's told her about this African who sells her fake designer bags. He only sells to special clients and does not sling his stuff on the beach like the others. After my wife tells her that she was interested, get this, she calls him! Within an hour this guy was on the beach at our beach club. He showed up with two handbags. One was a silver D&G or Gucci, I forget. The other was a classic Louis Vuitton. My wife bought the Louis Vuitton and it wasn't cheap: €100.

Let me tell you that when we got home she looked for the exact same bag on the internet. She even found a site that explained the differences from the fake bag to the real bag. Do you know where the difference was in my wife's bag compared to the real one: the number of stiches used to secure the handles. Unbelievable. That's capitalism!

"That's capitalism!"

Precisely. Even in the modest Rinascente department store in Rome you wouldn't buy a DG belt for less than 100 Euros.

markino

And I'm not making excuses for them either. Get the Albanians and Romanians out as well.

"you're a bigot"

Thanks for the compliment. I know I am. As I said, better to be a bigot than an ignorant fool.

Hell yeah, Milan wins again... Hope they keep this up..
The two striker attack is working so much better for them than playing with just one up front.

Pabs - why don't you be a bigot against the mafia? They cause far more grief and havoc throughout the world.

who says I'm not ? Of course I loathe them

tronche

do you want to see how real French women look like ? I mean how they really look like. The same way they looked as recent as 40-500 years ago ?

Go to a small city/town in the Province of Quebec here in Canada. The most beautiful women in the world reside here.

Pabs,

what about their accent ? that is such a turn off....I mean they speak old french

I can't tell the difference anyways. Who cares ? They're hot.

BTW tronche

This year was Quebec's 400th Anniversary.

They really did a great marketing scheme to promote tourism to the Province. My parents and my sisters family went. I got an invite but I declined.

Montreal is another multi-cultural hellhole, but as I said, small town Quebec is loaded with hot female French DNA

you know, the way France used to be

Your team!

Falc - my guess is Inter (not my team). But as I said yesterday... you never know in a derby.

Milan!!!

i bet there will be controversy though...

Forza Inter!!!!!!!

September 26, 2008, 3:40 pm
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... ectations/

Debate Expectations
By Michael Falcone

Besides the post-debate “Spin Room,” where campaign aides and surrogates gather to assess the candidates’ performances, there is perhaps no category of spin of more dubious origin than pre-debate expectations setting.

And we’re hearing some of it today.

The Obama campaign distributed a memo this afternoon titled “Home-field advantage: John McCain.” Though the debate’s moderator Jim Lehrer is quite likely to dip into questions about the economy, the night’s focus is foreign policy, which the Obama campaign calls “McCain’s professed area of expertise.”

“If he slips up, makes a mistake, or fails to deliver a game-changing performance, it will be a serious blow to his campaign,” according to the memo. “Given his unsteady performance this week, he desperately needs to win this debate in a big way in order to change the topic and get back to his home turf.”

The memo goes on to footnote more than half a dozen media clips that the Obama campaign says tout Mr. McCain’s prowess as a debater as well as several more articles under the bold-faced heading “Debates are not a good format for Obama.”

The Obama campaign writes: “McCain’s debating skills are unparalleled, as you can see below, and the expectations for him tonight are sky-high.”

The Obama team is taking a page from a well-worn political playbook: raise expectations for the other guy while lowering them for your own candidate.

Alex Conant, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, sent around this response:

“It says a lot about the candidates’ priorities that while John McCain was focused on rescuing the economy, Barack Obama’s campaign was drafting a debate memo,” Mr. Conant said in a statement. “Strong leadership does not transparently attempt to lower expectations by circulating clips criticizing yourself.”

Mr. Conant did, however, circulate a television clip of Obama foreign policy adviser Susan Rice on MSNBC today, saying that violence in Iraq is down “and that’s a tribute to our service men and women, and to a changed strategy pointing towards more effective counter-insurgency tactics.” In his e-mail message, Mr. Conant was using the clip as ammunition to ask: “Will Obama admit tonight that he was wrong to oppose the surge and admit that the new strategy succeeded?”

McCain-Palin spokesman-blogger, Michael Goldfarb, also responded to the Obama memo, charging that it “perfectly captures the nastiness and politics first approach of Senator Obama’s campaign.” He noted that the Democrats included a press clipping of an Associated Press story that called some of Mr. Obama’s previous debate performances “lifeless, aloof and windy.”

“In fact, that is a better characterization of Senator Obama’s brief record in the United States Senate,” Mr. Goldfarb said in a statement.

The McCain campaign — most likely because the Arizona senator’s attendance at the event was in doubt until Friday afternoon — has been more tight-lipped over the last 24 hours about how both candidates would do.

But earlier this week, Mike DuHaime, Senator McCain’s political director, told reporters that Senator Barack Obama was a “phenomenal debater.”

And on Tuesday, before he decided to put his campaign on a temporary hold, Mr. McCain was playing the expectations game too. While campaigning in Ohio on Tuesday, he said “have no doubt about the capabilities of Senator Obama” at a debate.

“He’s very, very good,’’ Mr. McCain said. “He was able to beat Senator Hillary Clinton, who as we all know is very accomplished — very accomplished. And he was able to, I think, with his eloquence inspire a great number of Americans. So, these are going to be tough debates.’’

And en route from Washington to Memphis today, McCain adviser Mark Salter spelled out his goals for Senator McCain at the debate, according to a pool report: “To do well, against a guy who’s a pretty good debater, show presidential leadership and be able to speak directly to the American people about what he believes.”