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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Pabs on 23 Jul 2008, 17:56

Pents

About the Brazilian model Ellen Roche.

I forget right now, but was she dating a football player before ? Wasn't it Ronaldo or am I getting confused with somebody else ?
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 23 Jul 2008, 22:18

Pabs,

I think you made confusion, probably with Susana Werner, who was Ronaldo's fiancée by the time of the WC98(people say Ronaldo had that problem in the final because he discovered an affair of susana and Pedro Bial, who was working with her in the WC coverage), Susana is Júlio César's wife now(Inter Milan's gk)

Ellen is married with Ricardo Macchi, the unforgettable Gipsy Igor, considered the worst performance ever in a soap opera (and you can imagine he had great contenders, heheh)
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 23 Jul 2008, 22:23

Damn it Aircal,
Nilmar has already put 2 on SP's net. He has 7 goals now, only 1 behind Alex Mineiro(Palmeiras) the current top striker
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 23 Jul 2008, 23:18

Don't forget Penta that Pabs is an idiot.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Aircalzinho Paulista on 25 Jul 2008, 16:33

Penta:

lol.. well i hope SP won 3-2... I remember seeing Nilmar playing for the youth selecao teams.. he was bad ass.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 25 Jul 2008, 19:53

Aircal,

It ended 2x0. The ref called off a legal goal scored by Dagoberto, but it was a difficult call. SP will have some difficulties since Hernanes and Alex Silva are serbing the seleção in Pequim.
Nilmar should be in the seleção, he had bads luck in his career, when he was about to explode he had some serious injuries and he stayed almost one year without playing, when he came back he suffered another injury.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Pabs on 26 Jul 2008, 20:43

Hey beach boys, take it easy on us tomorrow...

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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 27 Jul 2008, 13:57

5-2 so far. It was 5-0.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 27 Jul 2008, 14:57

Brasil relaxed in the last 3 minutes and Italy scored 3 goals, after the 5x0, even Maradoninha scored his. The games against Spain, Portugal and specially Russia were tougher. Brasil became tri-champiom in this competition after FIFA had decided to "sponsor" it. I believe it will become more respectfull when the gap between the WCs become two years or more like it's previewd for the next ones.
In the past , there was a sports commentator who used to joke "Every single weekend there is a World Championship of Beach soccer in Copacabana and Brasil wins them all" heheheh

I'm worried about the men's volleyball, we lost at home to USA(who conquered for the first time the World league) and Russia in a row. The third gold medal seems a bit far away now.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Aircalzinho Paulista on 28 Jul 2008, 15:35

in Olympic news the selecao squad beat Singapore 3-0. Diego, Dinho and Jo were goal scorers.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 28 Jul 2008, 17:11

I heard that...last night.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 29 Jul 2008, 20:02

I'm happy to see Ronaldinho playing well again, I mean, playing football is like riding bicycle, you can't "unlearn" the whole thing. Although I only remember few memorable performances of Ronaldinho wearing the seleção shirt, while he had hundreds gala shows playing for Grêmio, PSG and Barça.
Milan will have Kaká, Pato and Ronaldinho, on the paper it's a hellovan attack. Let's see in the real game.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 29 Jul 2008, 20:10

Speaking of Milan, Serginho is here in Salvador as "ambassador" of something called "Milan's camp" that will happen in december. I had no rememberance of Serginho playing for Bahia, but he did 10 years ago, when Bahia was still part of Serie A.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 30 Jul 2008, 00:00

Speaking of old timers. What is Jorgihno doing?
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 30 Jul 2008, 08:47

Jorginho is Dunga´s assistent, like Zico/Zagallo in 98 and Zagallo/Parreira in 2006.

In fact, Jorginho could do as a favor and replace Dunga in the interviews, our ears aren´t toilets.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 30 Jul 2008, 23:59

Well , jorginho is a bright man. And a better player thahn Cafu ever was. Had to think of Cafu as a third option in WC 1994 but wasn't he Rochas back up after Serginho or something like that?
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Pabs on 31 Jul 2008, 00:45

hehe, look at you pretending to know what you're talking about. That's so cute...
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 31 Jul 2008, 08:42

Palo,

Both Ricardos(Gomes and Rocha) were central defenders, and both were sometimes captains. Cafu was Jorginho backup in WC94, I think Jorginho was suspended due to yellow cards anc couldn´t play the final in 94, so Cafu played 3 finals in a row(94-98-02). Serginho has never gone to a WC, actually he got mad after not being called for some competition I don´t rememeber now and when Zagallo called him for a Copa América, he declined and said he wouldn´t like to be called again.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Pabs on 31 Jul 2008, 17:19

if I recall correctly Jorginho was subbed off in the Final of 1994.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Pabs on 31 Jul 2008, 17:21

Just checked the summary. I was correct.


17.07.94 Los Angeles, Rose Bowl

BRA - ITA 0:0 (0:0, 0:0, 0:0) p. 3-2

(~94000) Puhl HUN

BRA: Taffarel - Jorginho (22 Cafú), Aldair, Marcio Santos, Branco -
Mazinho, Mauro Silva, Dunga (c), Zinho (106 Viola) - Bebeto, Romário
ITA: Pagliuca - Mussi (34 Apolloni), F.Baresi (c), Maldini, Benarrivo -
Berti, D.Baggio (95 Evani), Albertini, Donadoni - R.Baggio, Massaro

Penalties: (0:0) F.Baresi (out), (0:0) Marcio Santos (save Pagliuca), 0:1
Albertini, 1:1 Romário, 1:2 Evani, 2:2 Branco, (2:2) Massaro (save Taffarel),
3:2 Dunga, (3:2) R.Baggio (out)

booked: Mazinho, Cafú / Apolloni, Albertini
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 31 Jul 2008, 22:00

Jorginho was subbed and Cafu never lost his spot. But I am sure that Rocha was ahead of Jorginho at one time. I don't know why I typed Sergingo, maybe cause he is a moron and Pabs name crossed my mind.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 31 Jul 2008, 22:09

Plus, I remeber seeing Rocha, Gomez and Jorginho playing togtehr in '90. That was one horrible team with Branco, Alemao (sp) Mauro and Dunga and with that idiot Careca instead of Romario in the game against Argentina. That was by far the worse Brasil of my lifetime.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 31 Jul 2008, 23:01

Palo,

Careca was a hellova player , one of the best brazilian forwards ever, he scored 5 goals in WC86 and 2 more in WC90, Maradona agrees with me and knows that part of his fame was conuqered due to Careca in Napoli. That 90 seleção was the worst ever in my opinion too, but Dunga is getting close to Lazzaroni,hehehe The Mauro you mentioned is Mauro Galvão and not Mauro Silva(WC 94), Lazzaroni said that Galvão was the "líbero" of the team, a senseless tactical bullshit that never worked. Let's not forget that Branco saved our asses in 94 when he replaced Leonardo (red card), after a 2x0 the dutchmen tied the game (when "Taffranguel" swallowed two in a row) and he scored in that perfect FK shot, I never get tired of seeing that goal, Romário takes his body off of the ball trajetory amazingly. about Romário in 90, he had his leg broken right before the WC, he only had conditions to play a little in that game against Argentina. it wasn't Careca who was taking his place(if he had conditions to play), but Muller, who hit the post at the end of the game, do you remember?
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 01 Aug 2008, 09:01

Careca was a good little player :0 ) but I didn't see the end of that game. I went nuts after Cani scored.
Worse game I remember.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 01 Aug 2008, 10:38

I remember Romário entering at the end of the game, with long hair(atleast longer than now,hehehe), but he wasn´t in total conditions. People blame it on Alemão for not commiting foul on Maradona at the midfield right before the pass to Caniggia, since he was his pal at Nápoli. But since nobody was caring too much about that ugly seleção , the fact was forgotten. Muller missed an incredible ball goal face to face wto the goal.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Aircalzinho Paulista on 01 Aug 2008, 19:23

whats up with GolTV being replaced by Fox Sports en Espanol on Dishnetwork. I was watching GolTV in the morning, then i left and came back later this afternoon and the GolTV channel is showing FSE
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Postby Falc on 01 Aug 2008, 19:56

Air - Saw that too. Looks like there is some contract dispute between Dish and Gol TV. There is nothing on the Dish site about it.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 02 Aug 2008, 11:24

I have not noticed but I haven't bene home much. It's Summer time and the evenings are just awesome here in L.A most of the time.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Aircalzinho Paulista on 02 Aug 2008, 11:44

It says on GolTV's site that they will no longer be transmitting on Dishnetwork.. but all other networks including, comcast, directtv, etc. will continue to transmit the channel.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 02 Aug 2008, 13:50

I know that Mr. Mexican genious.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 07 Aug 2008, 07:08

Palo,

Did you see Hernanes , whom I talked about here, in the game against Belgium?
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Brasilian on 07 Aug 2008, 07:37

Thank God he score otherwise Brasil was horribe.
Deigo played good.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 07 Aug 2008, 08:02

Diego is very good, actually, almost the whole team is, even better than the main team(although this doesn´t mean much, hehehe). But without previous training and organization, they are knowing each other practically now. I don´t see much future in this Olympic games, unless they really get learning how to play as a team while facing these easy teams of the group stage. If Brasil really had a coach, we would have more chances.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Aircalzinho Paulista on 08 Aug 2008, 17:14

Forca Felipao! He should coach the selecao again.

Brazil looked so disorganized, I did not see any of this fighting spirit that Dunga keeps talking about. The only player who did really good was Diego... Anderson also stood his ground against taller Belgian players.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 08 Aug 2008, 20:26

Cal,

Three players have special feelings about these Olympic Games: Ronaldinho, who will have a second chance(rare fact for football players). Diego, who fought a lot with his club and declared that even if Bremen determined his reurn, he wouldn't leave the Olympic Seleção. Hernanes, who always sayd in interviews that his childhood dream has always been to conquer the inedit gold medal for us.

Anderson is a special player, he comes from a very poor family(even for brazilian standards) and since he is very shy, he doesn't give many interviews, add that the fact that he leaft brasil very young and he speaks with portuguese(from Portugal) accent, he is wrongly considered by many people as a conceited boy. He is considered a "different" player since he was 15 and with that age he had many memmorable games playing for Grêmio, including the game known as "Battle of Aflitos" when Grêmio with only 7players defeated Náutico with a goal scored by him at the end of the game giving the Serie B title to Grêmio in 2005
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 08 Aug 2008, 20:39

I don't know if you know about this, but many people say that Dunga had resistance to putting Ronaldinho as starter (except for now, when Ricardão , his chief, said so) due to the "trauma" about this game in 99.
The guy in blue & black is Ronaldinho and the victim in red is Dunga.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 08 Aug 2008, 22:43

Stop hating . I gotta give Diego credit. Her alone, unlike Messi, proved that he was no pussy for hire. Bravo Diego.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby Axé Brasil on 09 Aug 2008, 13:22

Aleluia, hehehe, finally you talk about Diego and it isn't offensive words. Another Diego, the Hipólito, is our greatest hope of gold medal, in the men's gymnastics.
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Re: Brasil, o país do Futebol.

Postby agentesecreto on 09 Aug 2008, 19:37

You got to give a man credit for doing what he did. He was willing to renounce his own personal glory for the sake of country, that my friend is patriotism. Unlike that malingering pussy, Robinho.
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