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by **agentesecreto** on 22 Jun 2006, 02:29

His dream of seeing Totti almost nakes has gone up in smoke.

by **Felix K** on 22 Jun 2006, 05:23

surnami wrote:Does anyone know this?

It appears that FIFA pays qualifying countries a certain amount to help cover the cost of preperation to qualify and for lodging and travel during their WC stay.

What is the amount?

And I'm assuming it is the same for every country?

Anyone?

It depends of how far the countries advance in the tournament. I believe some 8 million Euros for those who are out after the first round. Every additional round adds some extra millions, but I don't know the exact numbers.

by **Buzzz** on 22 Jun 2006, 09:16

There are a lot of photos of Totti in his undies circulating on the skating boards. :lol:

by **Buzzz** on 22 Jun 2006, 13:32

World Cup Inspires a Strange Match

AUTTHAYA, Thailand (AP) - It was Man vs. Elephant on a soccer pitch in Thailand on Thursday, as World Cup fever took on a decidedly local flair.

An elephant holds a giant ball in Thailand on Thursday. (Getty)

Eleven elephants, each one's back painted with different national flags and carrying a rider, faced off against 11 human players for an afternoon of fun with a moral message.

Organizers arranged the match at a university in Autthaya, about 70 kilometres north of Bangkok, to convince fans that soccer is about fun and should not involve gambling - which is illegal in Thailand but, nonetheless, widespread.

Police said Thursday that since the start of the World Cup on June 9 they had arrested some 440 people in Bangkok alone for illegal betting that amounted to almost $5 million US.

"We are campaigning against gambling during the World Cup because it leads to other social problems, debt as well as crimes," said Wiwat Harmontree, vice president of Ayutthaya's Rajabhat University, which organized the match along with the Ayutthaya Elephant Palace and Royal Kraal.

Each elephant stood for a different country. The elephant representing Britain had the name "Beckham" scrawled down its hind leg - a tribute to England captain David Beckham.

Players were dazzled by the powerful punts and penalty kicks of the pachyderms.

"It's very difficult," said one player, Kriangsak Nachawee, a university student. "When the elephants had the ball, it was quite risky to attack . . . I could end up in a hospital."

But the two-legged side held its own.

After two 20 minute halves, the match ended in a 3-3 draw.

by **Eugene Berkovich** on 22 Jun 2006, 13:38

1st African and 7th European team had just qualified sending another European and a CONCACAF side to Summer pastures

by **Buzzz** on 22 Jun 2006, 13:42

I feel for the US but at least one African nation had to qualify for the next stage, and who better than Ghana?

by **Buzzz** on 22 Jun 2006, 18:00

Is there any doubt that football has taken over baseball in popularity in Japan?

by **Pabs** on 22 Jun 2006, 18:23

Baseball is still king in Japan.

by **surnami** on 22 Jun 2006, 22:41

Ok

So you guys are not buying the pitch is to blame theory?

Something is going on though maybe the players have he wrong shoes as far as studs(spikes).

Yesterday Cambiasso knee injury without being fauled

Today Reyna same thing.

by **Pabs** on 22 Jun 2006, 23:42

Hold on a second ?

did you even see Reyna's injury ? He was given a knee-on-knee jolt that dropped him like a sack of potatoes, jarred the ball loose the Ghana player walked in all alone.

The pitch was the LAST thing to be blamed for his injury. Knee-on-knee, you see that common injury in hockey all the time.

by **agentesecreto** on 23 Jun 2006, 02:27

I was watching a Mexican TV program and they had a German involved in growing /installing the grass and he said that they had many problems.

Mexicans are fuicking nuts over the WC. I can actually watch the WC all day long with 12 hours of LIVE programming.

Typical WC day for the Agent:

5:30 a.m, wake up, turn on TV , watch Game Pre-game show. 6:00 First game. 6:45, piss break and breakfast. 8:30: p[regame show. 9:00 Second game. 11:30- pregame show and last game.

3:00 P.M .....Wold Cup show live- 4:00 World Cup Action show. 5:00-6:00 - Football Talk show, 7:00-10:30 World Cup show of the day.

Freaking insane. I can't get anything done. I have even given up sex with my wife. I'll try to squeeze in a Solo tomoorw between games.

by **Pabs** on 23 Jun 2006, 06:03

what's solo mean ? Visiting Madame La Palm and her five sisters ?

by **Falc** on 23 Jun 2006, 08:51

Here we are in the last day in group play. Europe and South America have represented their continents well. North America only sent 1 out of 4. Oceania hit 100% with its lone representative, Australia. Asia has its last hope with South Korea (the Saudi's need a miracle and Alla is not going to give it to them) but they meet the tough Swiss. Africa needs Tunisia to beat Ukraine, otherwise it was a flop in this WC. So if greater representation is given in the WC, it would be a watered down tournament.

Through to the Round of 16
Europe (7): Germany, England, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Italy & Spain

South America (3): Equador, Argentina & Brazil

North America (1): Mexico

Africa (1): Ghana

Oceania (1): Australia

Going Home for Summer Vacation
Europe (4): Czech Republic, Croatia, Poland & Serbia,

South America (1): Paraguay

North America (3): Costa Rica, USA & Trinidad & Tobago

Africa (3): Angola, Ivory Coast & Togo

Asia (2): Iran & Japan

Last Hope
Europe (3): Switzerland, France & Ukraine

Africa (1): Tunisia

Asia (2): South Korea & Saudi Arabia

by **Buzzz** on 23 Jun 2006, 09:28

LOL@ Falc! hehehe I hope Switzerland and S Korea draw that way they both go through. :lol:

by **....** on 23 Jun 2006, 09:29

Not if France can beat Togo by 2 clear goals, Buzzz

by **Eugene Berkovich** on 23 Jun 2006, 12:19

Through to the Round of 16
Europe (8): Germany, England, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Italy, Spain, Ukraine

South America (3): Equador, Argentina & Brazil

North America (1): Mexico

Africa (1): Ghana

Oceania (1): Australia

Going Home for Summer Vacation
Europe (4): Czech Republic, Croatia, Poland & Serbia,

South America (1): Paraguay

North America (3): Costa Rica, USA & Trinidad & Tobago

Africa (4): Angola, Ivory Coast, Togo, & Tunisia

Asia (3): Iran, Saudi Arabia, & Japan

Last Hope
Europe (2): Switzerland, France

Asia (1): South Korea

I can't believe, Ukraine is the only EE representative. A horrid performance by EE:

Ukraine - 2 wins, 1 loss, 5-4
Poland - 1 win, 2 losses, 3-5
Czech Republic - 1 win, 2 losses, 3-4
Croatia - 2 draws, 1 loss, 2-3
Serbia - 3 losses, 2-10

Overall - 4 wins, 2 draws, 9 losses, 15-26

by **surnami** on 23 Jun 2006, 13:25

A Typical American Footy Hata:

This is an interview from a Euro sportswriter of a reporter from one of America's prominent newspapers, The Washington Post.

America's Most Prominent Soccer Hater, Reporting for Duty
With the World Cup hoopla at full force, I figured it was time for me to do my part for the cause. So when my friend Markus Guenther, Washington correspondent for a chain of German newspapers, proposed to publish a series of interviews with me on why Americans hate soccer, I was happy to help. I didn't know the stories would dub me "America's Most Prominent Soccer Hater," right up at the top in bold black headline type, but, well, there we are and here it is.

Q: Mr. Fisher, why do you hate soccer?

A: I don't hate soccer, I simply consider it a sport that is fun for kids to play, but lacks the complexity and drama that make for a great spectator sport. In America, interest in soccer is very high for children under 10 and then drops off gradually as kids get older, and by the time Americans reach adulthood, they generally have no further interest in the game.

Q: But it is unfair to bring up hooligans and riots in stadiums whenever soccer is mentioned. Soccer is also a widely popular sport for children and young people, even in the USA.

A: Yes, soccer is very popular as a participatory sport for kids in our country, and has been for three decades. But the sport has failed again and again to cross over into popularity either on television or at the stadium. The college game draws very few spectators and the professional league here is forever on the brink of collapse. We tend not to be interested in sports that attract hooligans and riots. In America, spectator sports tend to be family events, with a wholesome emphasis on community. People go out to a ballgame with children or with friends and the game is but one piece of a larger communal event, with cookouts, music, and cheering, as well as the fan's involvement in the personalities and prospects of a favorite team.

Q: Isn't soccer much more exciting than baseball, where the players spend most of the time just standing around bored?

A: Oh goodness no! There is no more exciting or tense game than baseball. Baseball is the only sport in which statistics over the course of more than a century of play can be compared directly, allowing fans to know instantly how today's players rate against those of decades ago. In every play in baseball, every player is on the move, calculating the likelihood of a ball being hit to a certain place. Baseball is very much a game of mathematics--of angles and percentages---and of intricate strategy. Soccer, by comparison, is a blunt instrument, a simple game that depends more on stamina and strength than on the eye-hand coordination, mental gamesmanship and unique combination of grace and power that baseball demands. Every comparison that I've seen concludes that the single most difficult task in all of sports is hitting a baseball thrown at 95 miles an hour.

Q: You once said that soccer is the favorite sport of Osama bin-Laden. Did you intend to compare all soccer fans in the world with terrorists?

A: That is certainly an overly dramatic exaggeration on my part, but there is a serious point behind it: Soccer's popularity in much of the world is sadly tied up with the most disturbing face of nationalism, and so when Americans see soccer fans waving national flags and chanting vile slogans against other nations, we are reminded of the horrors of terrorism and the unfortunate abuse of sports by terrorists and by nations. For many Americans, the rowdiness and nationalistic fervor surrounding soccer reminds us painfully of the Munich Olympics or the petty cancellations of the Olympic Games by the Soviet Union and the United States during the Cold War.

Q: In the USA, soccer is very popular as a youth sport. Millions of boys and even girls play soccer in American schools and clubs. Why hasn't soccer made it as a professional or TV sport in the USA?

A: As I noted earlier, soccer's failure to make the leap from children's game to big-time spectator sport is primarily a reflection of American fans' desire for a level of complexity and drama in their games that soccer cannot support. We tend to like sports that can accommodate stories about players, coaches and other personalities. Soccer, as a largely anonymous sport, doesn't fit. The game simply doesn't work on television because the field is so enormous that the players appear to be tiny. Fans therefore cannot form powerful emotional connections with their play.

Q: Soccer in the US is also growing through the immigration of central and south Americans. Will soccer ever meet or surpass baseball, basketball or football in popularity?

A: No. Most Latin American immigrants to the United States are baseball fans--even more so than many Americans, and baseball is quickly becoming a more Latin sport, both in the ethnic backgrounds of the players and in the composition of the fan base. Indeed, this year's first World Baseball Classic demonstrated baseball's increasingly strong following not only in central and south America, but in Korea, Japan and China. Many immigrants from Latin countries do play soccer here, and many follow their home country's national team. But their children who are raised here end up with only a passing interest in professional soccer. They may play soccer, but they want to follow American sports.

Q: The best result a US team ever achieved in the World Cup was when the 1930 team reached the semi-finals. Is it possible that Americans do not like soccer mainly because the US team has not yet been successful at the international level?

A: Certainly a U.S. team's success in the World Cup would boost the sport's ability to win TV coverage and notice from Americans, most of whom have no idea that the World Cup exists, let alone that it is occurring this month. But most Americans have no clue who is on the U.S. team or even that there is a U.S. team, so the past performance of that team is irrelevant. It's very nice for soccer-loving countries to have their little tournament, but to call it the World Cup is rather arrogant and overblown.

Q: How will the US team do this time?

A: I have no clue. I couldn't tell you the name of a single player. And more important, neither I nor 99 percent of Americans cares. Please enjoy your tournament!

by **Buzzz** on 23 Jun 2006, 16:04

Football on top Down Under
By Julian Shea

Australia fans stayed up all night watching the game
The issue of republicanism may have divided Australia in recent years, but on Thursday night the country hailed a new king.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard dubbed Harry Kewell "King Harry" after his equalising goal in their 2-2 draw with Croatia, and few people in Australia would have disagreed.

The sight of Howard watching football in the early hours of the morning and jumping out of his chair with excitement summed up how Australia has fallen in love with football. And things may never be the same again.

For years, football was the poor relation in the sports-mad country.

Despite a steady stream of talented individuals, fate seemed to conspire against the Socceroos, with just one appearance at the World Cup finals - in 1974 in West Germany - to show for years of effort.

Former Liverpool striker Craig Johnston was one of those voices in the footballing wilderness, so he is relishing seeing football finally take centre stage.

"The World Cup has completely galvanised Australian society," he told BBC Sport.

Kewell and Tim Cahill are two of Australia's brightest stars

"There was always a great prejudice against soccer when I grew up.

"You were made to feel you were playing an immigrant game, but now all those years of hurt have been swept away because the other sports can't match the global nature of football.

"We've waited 32 years to qualify. It's been a long wait by what we call the Soccer Tragics - of which I'm one."

In the 1980s Johnston played in England for Middlesbrough and Liverpool and remains the only Australian to have scored in an FA Cup final, as Liverpool beat Everton 3-1 in 1986.

He was a standard bearer for Australian football in an era when Australian Rules Football, the two rugby codes and cricket were dominant back home.

But Johnston says Australia's success at the World Cup has changed all that - and the other sports are worried.

"The other codes have always been terrified of Australia having a good World Cup," he said.

"That would mean the sport having Australian heroes for kids to look up to."

Back home, thousands of fans have gathered in the early hours of the morning to watch their new heroes on big screens.

In the eyes of many Australians, playing football has been un-Australian thing. But that's finished now

Craig Johnston

And Johnston says that now Australia have shown their worth in football's biggest arena, the next natural step is to host it.

"Australian football is no longer an adolescent, it's grown up and had its 21st birthday.

"I've been saying for 25 years that we want to bring the World Cup to Australia.

"You saw what we did with the Olympics, so could we stage the World Cup? Indisputably, yes.

"Until now, in the eyes of many Australians, playing football has been an un-Australian thing to do. But that's all finished now."

One of the reasons cited for Australia's new love affair with football is fans picking up the habit when they return home from living in Europe.

Lynette Eyb is managing editor of London-based TNT Magazine, aimed at the young ex-pat community.

She says the legacy of the 'overseas experience' is having a big impact back home.

"For the Australian sporting landscape, this World Cup is monumental," she said.

"A lot of people become absorbed in the game when they're here and realise what it means to be involved in the global game.

Kewell's equaliser took Australia into the second round

"And every bit of feedback we're getting from back home is that the game is taking off like nobody - including the players - could have seen."

And while the Socceroos are busy changing Australian society, they also mirror the way the country has changed over the years.

The 1974 World Cup squad was largely made up of British ex-pats who had taken their game with them to their new home.

But the 2006 squad is full of second generation immigrants - ironically, many of them of Croatian descent - and Eyb says there are major social implications.

"Football is still fairly segmented into immigrant communities in the city suburbs, but the biggest thing the World Cup has done is take it out of these pockets," she said.

"A lot of these guys are children of immigrants, who could have played for other countries, but chose to play for Australia.

"This will have a knock-on effect in the schools and sports clubs.

"There's somebody in this team for everybody, regardless of where you've come from. They represent a new generation of Australians."

by **Falc** on 23 Jun 2006, 16:06

Short attention span .....

That is the problem with the average American fan. They are to use to watching sports that break in action. Complexity and drama. Right. What bullshit. As for statistics in baseball, they are used ad nauseum but anytime comparisons are made of players from the present to players from the past, commentators always bring out something that skews the comparisons. Who is this idiot anyway?

by **Buzzz** on 23 Jun 2006, 16:19

most of whom have no idea that the World Cup exists, let alone that it is occurring this month. But most Americans have no clue who is on the U.S. team or even that there is a U.S. team, so the past performance of that team is irrelevant. It's very nice for soccer-loving countries to have their little tournament, but to call it the World Cup is rather arrogant and overblown.

Q: How will the US team do this time?

A: I have no clue. I couldn't tell you the name of a single player. And more important, neither I nor 99 percent of Americans cares. Please enjoy your tournament!

by **Glenn Stromberg** on 23 Jun 2006, 16:52

I thought it was pretty funny, the Osama part, the part where he claims that american sports have emphasis on wholesome community and that it's arrogant to call the World Cup the World Cup. World series anyone?

The guy is obviously just trying to provoke people.

by **mate** on 23 Jun 2006, 17:26

Australia has provided a template of how to make football succeed in the US: let Croatian immigrants run the show!

:wink:

by **Buzzz** on 23 Jun 2006, 17:28

LOL@mate

by **Always** on 23 Jun 2006, 17:34

Mate - At what age did you move to the US from Croatia?

by **Falc** on 23 Jun 2006, 17:40

So much for the call to expand the WC outside of Europe. After the rounds are over, Europe puts through 10 of their 14 entries. Mathematics would tell you that only 7 go through. Asia was the worst with not one entry. With all of the hoopla about Africa, only Ghana makes it. Equador made South America proud by joining regulars Argentina and Brazil. And Mexico shows why it is the class of North America. The numbers probably should stay the same. If anything, create more inter-confederation playoffs that include Europe.

Through to the Round of 16
Europe (10): Germany, England, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Italy, Spain, Ukraine, Switzerland & France

South America (3): Equador, Argentina & Brazil

North America (1): Mexico

Africa (1): Ghana

Oceania (1): Australia

Going Home for Summer Vacation
Europe (4): Czech Republic, Croatia, Poland & Serbia,

South America (1): Paraguay

North America (3): Costa Rica, USA & Trinidad & Tobago

Africa (4): Angola, Ivory Coast, Togo, & Tunisia

Asia (4): Iran, Saudi Arabia, South Korea & Japan

by **Buzzz** on 23 Jun 2006, 17:43

Give 'em time. They are all getting better and better.

by **Falc** on 23 Jun 2006, 17:54

Let me tell you guys something .....

THE USA WILL NEVER WIN THE WORLD CUP IN OUR LIFETIME

Proof of that came to me last night as I was attending a meeting of our boys league, which is considered the premier boys league in the metropolitan Washington area. There has been this drive to expand small sided play to older age groups. Two years ago, they changed U11 from 11v11 to 8v8. The kids had played at U9 & U10 at 7v7. Now, instead of expanding to a bigger pitch with more players, they added an additional player on the same pitch despite the fact that kids were getting bigger, faster and stronger. The theory is that players will get more touch of the ball playing on smaller sides. That works if all the players on the pitch are of equal skill (and still, it depends on your position). The reality is that the stronger players dominate play, going from one goal post to the other on a smaller field. No one recognizes that playing on a bigger field requires players to learn how to use the field and let the ball do the moving.

Anyway, last night, there is a motion to expand 8v8 to U12. In this proposal, the U11 & U12 will use the same size field, bigger than what is used at the younger ages but smaller than regulation. I am OK with that as it at least gives a transition. The kicker is that the size of the goal be 7 feet tall, 21 feet wide. I did not even know that goals were made at this size. The little kids use 6x18. The regulation goal is 8x24. I made an amendment to use regulation goals. I added the fact that considering the US could only muster one goal in 3 games, we need our kids to learn how to shoot. The dimensions differ only in 1 foot in height, 3 by width. And there would be no need to purchase new goals. A no brainer I figure. But someone yelled what about the goalkeeper? To be honest, I would have the little kids use regulation goals. Who cares if a bunch of 9 year olds play to 17-15 score? Let them have fun, let them learn how to score. But no, we politically correct American are too focking concerned about the feelings of goalkeepers, a position that we have little trouble filling on the international scene. So my amendment gets defeated. Why, because instead of having soccer people making decisions, we have a bunch of parents doing it with no knowledge of the game. The US youth system is a joke, it is broke and will never make an impact on the international scene.

by **Felix K** on 23 Jun 2006, 18:05

It's very nice for soccer-loving countries to have their little tournament, but to call it the World Cup is rather arrogant and overblown.

Is that guy being serious or is that just satire and I'm not getting it? :shock:

How can a baseball fan call the name "World Cup" "arrogant and overblown" when there exists a baseball championship that, despite excluding all of the world except Northern America, and despite being ignored by almost the entire world save N America, is called the "World Series"?

by **Glenn Stromberg** on 23 Jun 2006, 18:07

Quite frankly this World Cup was a step backwards. It was pretty expected since every european team basically plays in front of a home crowd. There where more than 50.000 Swedes in Berlin for the Paraguay game. It makes a difference.

When it comes to Africa I think it has to do with the wierd results from their qualification rounds where experienced teams like Nigeria and Cameroon missed the WC.

However the teams outside Europe and South America has been disappointing.

Still I wouldn't like Europe to have more slots. It's supposed to be a World Cup and not a European Championship. It's not as if any quality teams from Europe are being left out. Norway, Russia, Scotland? What possibly could the addition of those team have added to the tournament? If Europe got more slots in the WC the qualification rounds would be an even more tedious event than it is today. Frankly I liked it better when it was a 24 team event because the qualification rounds where more exciting.

by **Glenn Stromberg** on 23 Jun 2006, 18:09

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it called "The World Series" because it originally was started by the newspaper "The World"? Or is it just an urban legend?

by **Pabs** on 23 Jun 2006, 18:12

yeah but Falc.

Scores in the 10's for both sides ? I'm not sure about that either.

by **Pabs** on 23 Jun 2006, 18:15

This WC was always going to be between Europe and the big 2 from CONMEBOL.

The writing was on the wall the moment the final whistle was blown in Tokyo in 2002.

by **Buzzz** on 23 Jun 2006, 21:31

Soccer Excitement Blamed for Deaths in China

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Over-excitement during World Cup games has been blamed for the deaths of at least three fans in China and one man broke several bones when he fell from a Hong Kong balcony, the Shanghai Daily reported Wednesday. A soccer fan has his hair shaved in a soccer ball pattern for the 2006 World Cup in Xi'an, China. (Reuters)

The rash of disasters had prompted doctors to urge fans to monitor their moods during games and keep an eye on their drinking and blood pressure, it said.

China is obsessed with football but is six hours ahead of Germany, meaning many of the games are shown late at night or in the early hours of the morning -- peak drinking times.

A young man named Wang, watching a game on June 10 at a bar in Changsha, the capital of southern Hunan province, drank too much and died at four the following morning, the newspaper said.

Four days later, a woman surnamed Wei, who suffered from high blood pressure, was watching South Korea vs Togo in Hangzhou, near Shanghai.

"She took a shower, went to bed and later died," the newspaper said.

The same day, Li Zhenbao, 27, died in his sleep in Hong Kong after staying up all night to watch three games in a row.

"Doctors suspected he died of a heart attack brought on by over-excitement," the newspaper said.

Ge Zuquan, 29, grew so excited during the game between the Netherlands and Ivory Coast that he ran to his fourth-floor Hong Kong balcony and jumped in the air.

"But he bounced over the railing," the newspaper said. "Doctors said he could have been paralyzed."

As it was, he merely broke bones in his spine, hip, ankle and wrist.

by **Buzzz** on 23 Jun 2006, 21:36

LOL@Falc That is a funny story. The mostkids need to play footie in most of the world is a ball and some friends. Only in North America it is such a big deal. Doesn't sound like much fun to me.

by **Always** on 23 Jun 2006, 21:50

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it called "The World Series" because it originally was started by the newspaper "The World"? Or is it just an urban legend?

Urban legend.

by **Falc** on 23 Jun 2006, 21:57

I have another horror story to tell. I had to attend this R&D hearing (rules & discipline) for one of our girls teams in the club. I am the club rep for the boys and my counterpart could not make the hearing. We had a U16 team that did not arrive to their field early enough or check it out during the week to see if it had to be lined. It did. So they were scrambling to get the field ready. They screwed up and did not line it properly, messing up the penalty area. But the referee found the field playable and the girls played to a 2-2 draw. From what I understood, it was a good match. The opponents filed a protest because of the field lining. The coach and her parents from the other team argued that it was a traumatic experience for the girls to play on a pitch that was not lined properly. That the expectation was for the girls at this level to play on a perfect pitch. Not once did anyone claim that the lines caused a play, goal or any other incident to affect the match. The league made the team forfeit. What a joke. This is what is wrong with the game in America.

by **Always** on 23 Jun 2006, 21:59

I'd have simply told the silly tarts fuck off home and stop teaching little girls that they can expect any rights whatsoever.

by **Falc** on 23 Jun 2006, 22:05

That is the point. It is not the kids. They played the game. But the damn parents and coach. She was a bitch. Looked like she was in her 60's. You would think she would have some perspective by then. They say it is for the kids. They say that they are out there to develop. Fucking lies. It is about winning. And in the end, that is why USA sucks at the world level.

by **Always** on 23 Jun 2006, 22:09

I think it has more to do with the fact that anyone with any athletic ability in the US chases the American Football/Netball with bouncing or trumped up Rounders dream.

Andbecause the LAtin American community, who do have football in their blood, feels so hard done by many of them would rather play for their parents homeland than the US.

by **agentesecreto** on 23 Jun 2006, 22:11

From the Daily PLanet..shouldn't they be calling it the Planetary Series?

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There goes Pab's fantasy

the pitch is to blame sometimes though

I thought it was....

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